Here are some extra details:

K2 suited is at the very bottom of my UTG opening range with certain table dynamics (no 3betting, fish in the blinds, people who are folding to me a ton in position).

I've been playing LAG have been involved in most big hands over the last dozen orbits.

BB is on tilt and being abusive to other people (and will get kicked out a few hands after this one)

SB is a station

On the turn I dont exactly remember the amount I bet, but it was definitely on the small side. In writing the hand up I at first thought it was 125 but then thought about how much more it was to call and I felt like it meant I must have bet less.

The turn bet is obviously the thing I'm interested in people's opinions of.

In that spot the action played out pretty ideally imo and I snap called. I felt like a large % of the time I had the best hand/best draw, and expected to be against things like QJ and worse flush draws, maybe worse pair + flush draw hands.

I also was only on a stack in the 550-600 range and was prioritizing building a large stack.

Maybe I'm dumb but I still am not sure if checking the turn and realizing my equity is better than checking and killing my action a large % of the time.

BBV:

Fold
Call
Check

If I ever bet that amount on the turn its because Im praying someone is an even bigger donk than I am and they shove over the top so I can snap them off.
Im assuming you planned to call a shove all along right?



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oh there's another page

Also I butchered that final explanation. Not sure if checking kills me from extracting max value.

You're forgetting the most important detail. Who won?

I don't think there's a very wide range of hands you currently beat that pay off both a turn bet AND river bet no matter what river card hits.
So I wouldn't worry too much about extracting max value from Qx 1-pair type hands. I think what you really want to maximize is the value you get from QT, smaller flushes, and TT/44 when you hit good rivers and I think a station like you describe SB as can get there with any of those holdings. In that regard I don't think its a bad thing to try to get to the river cheaply. And when the river does hit vs those hands, its all going in anyway, right?

But man every time I see that 75 bet into 350 I can't contain myself haha

75 turn bet lacks intent. There is no scenario where that is a good bet. Oof on the BBV stats.

Lol at raising k2s 5x utg

Turn call/fold after all this is so close it doesn't really matter

Lol $75 into $360 don't think this is real

I remember reading the "it lives it lives" chat thread in LLSNL about 5+ years ago and people were discussing the merit/profitability of raising K2dd utg at a full table.

Maybe Mr. Legend got the idea from that thread.

What a memory you have. I'd forgotten about that discussion. My fave post from it.

lolololol

Thanks yeah my memory is legendary.

Some say it’s a blessing. Others, a curse to rarely forget anything.

I'm still undecided if opening K2ss is a bad idea.

I probably do need to tighten up a bit. If i guessed at my live stats over the weekend i was playing something like 35/27, and 3bet/called out of the blinds about evenly.

The Troll Legend strikes again.

This was the result:

Gonna guess QT didn't hold if the BB got the heave-ho for bad behavior within a few hands.

Cherish it man! As a small child I killed at the Memory card game, knew the birthdays of nearly everyone I knew, including mom's friends, etc. Phone numbers, NES cheat codes. As I got older I memorized random **** like the entire 1997 MLB standings, staying in my mind well into the 2000s.

Now, I frequently forget what lead to whatever the **** is coming out of my mouth. Long term still decently intact. Maybe its just the frequent cannabis use. Lol.

In regards to poker memory, I do recall many HHs throughout a session with what I believe is complete accuracy. I NEVER check my cards postflop. To date I've never turned over a hand that wasn't exactly what I thought it was at showdown. My friend was playing a WPT event, in the early rounds of Day 1 thought a 6 on flop was his set, but when he turned his cards over, Presto!

Lol yeah. Tell us it wasn't an offsuit J!

We are forgetting that The Legend raised pre from utg with K2 suited.

He obviously binked a 4.

In a vacuum, I can see how having some deuces in your opening range allows for better board coverage, but I think those deuces are better off being in hands like 42s so you can credibly threaten to have a straight on a small flop and this sort of balance isn't necessary at most LSSNLtables.

As for the hand itself, I think this is one of those spots where you have to decide if you make more money from value-betting or inducing a bluff/bad value bet from hands that fold to a turn bet. I lean towards using the power of position and checking since SB will probably play too passively on the river and BB seems like he might be too aggressive on the river.

I'd be concerned that a player you describe as a station took a bet/call flop, check/shove turn line. One of my beliefs is that loose-passive and tight-passive players often have the same hand requirements for taking aggressive action. The more station-y SB is, the more likely he is to check/call down with a smaller flush, the more his range with this line is the same as that of a grizzled OMC. I think many of us would be contemplating a fold against a tight old man using the same line.

If SB didn't have the QT, then I don't think he is a station. Best ending is Larry slow rolling BB after they both hit the flush.

Sorry I did that wrong, their positions are swapped.

Maximum board coverage pre= moneys post.

Is 5x your standard opening raise size?

LL, that hand is.....interesting. I have nothing to add that hasn't already been said.