In higher stakes 5/10+ it seems like every tag player is trying to get it in with the nuts while free-rolling a redraw, so be careful about cbetting and getting c/r on boards where you are susceptible to that. Checking behind early in the hand to realize your equity will prevent you from getting free-rolled in a lot of spots.

Similarly I've found hands like Ax8x8z7y6z are way more premium for the same potential to be free-rolling as above.

Nits will only 4bet AAxxx hands and bad nits will 4bet/gii with bad aces. Taking flops in position vs them with dawing hands can be super profitable because they are liable to pot way too many flops because they turn their brains off and try and defend their hands.

Set over set is pretty common so on dry boards against tight players folding 2nd/3rd set is a pretty obvious play at times.

This is a repeat of the first point but the fact you can isolate someone by 3/4betting in position, and if they check to you on the flop, you get to see all streets for a single psb can be very powerful.

I 99.9% of the time play a single A of suit as if it's the nuts on board where the flush is the nuts. This is a bluff that can sometimes get picked off in plo4 but trying to catch it in plo5 is suicide.

In a higher buy-in I can definitely find a fold there with JJ and AQss but in a 500 I feel like you played it completely fine.

Swongs are one thing.

Interesting. I suspect that in a higher buyin, the raiser’s range is much wider — eg in a 500 buyin, the raiser is more likely to flat with JTss, while in a higher buyin, that hand is more likely to raise. Guys in 500s don’t think much about protecting their range.

If raiser’s range is restricted to AKs and AA-QQ, I should be able to find a fold there. Raiser isn’t deep enough for me to set-mine and I can get squeezed by the deep stack behind me. If raiser’s range is wider and for example includes 87ss, folding is a disaster, no?

I would think in a higher buy-in an average player is going to have a very narrow 3 bet range with a short stack against an utg open and utg+2 call.

But what if he knew you thought that?

Thanks Larry that’s good stuff.

Sure but utg and utg+2 are gonna have ranges too strong to bluff with a short stack.

I don't think there's a big difference here in 3bet ranges between a 500 and higher buyin.

Also it's a spot that isn't really exploitable.

IMO there is a fairly discernible difference in play quality between a 500 buyin and a 3500 circuit buyin event. You don’t see the Joe McKeehens and the Pesh DaSilva types at the former, and you sometimes do at the latter.

Exactly.

Which made me wanna fold the JJ even though somebody posted “cant fold. Cant call”

Which makes me wonder. Maybe u should never have the mindset of “cant fold”.

Like Ed Miller said in the intro to one of his fine poker books, it’s all about seeing all “64 squares”. If u immediately say to yourself “can’t fold” then you are being close minded and ergo not seeing “all 64 squares.”

#FoodForThought

I agree - I just don't think it's all that relevant in this specific spot

I thought about HT's spot some more:

JJ is a fold because of the rule of diminishing chip value, and losing there pushes HT out of the catbird seat.

He should be looking for better spots to gamble 23.85% of his stack.

I’m coming around to this view. If the hand is HU, it’s always a call. Against the specific deep stack to my left, a call to set-mine is very likely OK, although that’s a lousy spot against someone who is anything other than very unlikely to raise.

I come back to day two of this tournament with 37 BB tomorrow morning.

I have a saying: "Don't risk the biscuit."

If it's a quote en quote "crap spot" then you're not committed to "just go with it".

In the moment it's okay to trust your intuition as you likely can't do a full proper analysis on the fly.

EmpireMaker2 ?

GL & TID, HT.

Just busted 18th. Button (700k) limps playing 10k-20k. I raise to 70k with AA on 570K from the SB. BB (450k) and button call.

(230K). K 8 2 rainbow

I lead 90k, BB jams, button folds, I snap. He has KQ. Turn Q river K and HGHN.

Not a particularly interesting hand.

Nice run HT.

Two somewhat more interesting hands:

Hand One: I'm in the big blind with 200K playing 3K-6K and 6h4h. UTG minraises. Five calls, including the SB. I call.

(78,000) 8d 7d 3h. Action checks around.

(78,000) Qh. Action checks to MP who was second caller, who bets 40K. Action folds to me. My action?

Hand Two: I'm on the button, with 750K playing 5K-10K. Action folds to MP3, who moves all-in for 15K. Hijack, who seems to be a capable player, raises to 35K on about 450K. Mild chaos ensues when some moran (not me) tries to explain to everyone that the all-in player has to raise to 20K. Takes fifteen seconds for moran to understand that all-in player is all-in. Action folds to me on the button and I have KcQs. I call. Everyone else folds.

(45,000 main, 40,000 side) Jd 5d 6h. Checks around.

5s. Checks around.

Th. Hijack bets 40K. My action?

Min. raise

Hand one seems like a marginal fold. Unlikely to get significant value if you make either draw, not a lot of great options to win the hand without catching the best hand on the river. So you're basically putting a quarter of your stack in by calling, likely needing to hit on 12 outs, and unlikely to get too rich of a payoff on a favorable river unless maybe you hit on the gutshot and not the flush.

LOL: hand 1 or hand 2?

Both solid spots for a min raise imo.

Guys let's please keep the trolling out of this thread.

Hand 1: fold b/c of reasons by what LKJ said.

Hand 2: fold b/c u rep nothing

You could possibly even fold 64hh preflop.

It plays more like 64o and you have to hit just right to win (2 pair / trips) while playing oop, and flush under flush possibilities are real life.

So you could flop an OESD, do u really want to be drawing oop with your stack size?

Don't risk the biscuit, imo.