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07-11-2019 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Nice, BB did him dirty tho. Sent him off to Oakland.
Please. They weren't going to pay both Seymour and Wilfork and Vince was younger. Totally ho-hum decision.
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07-11-2019 , 11:46 AM
This is more what I expected out of an OOT poker thread.

Howard, any details on Brokos's hand against Su?
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07-11-2019 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stumpyyy
This is more what I expected out of an OOT poker thread.

Howard, any details on Brokos's hand against Su?
Not yet. I'll ask him in the next day or two. The WSOP coverage said there was 500K in the pot on Kh Jh Td 4c, and "each stuck in an additional 560K on the turn. Brokos checked from the big blind [on the 5d river] and Su slid out a bet of $2,030,000 in the hijack. Brokos dipped into the tank for two minutes before finally making the call . . . "

They're playing 30-60k. From the $500K pot size after flop betting, I'm speculating that Su raised from the HJ and Andrew called from the big blind, then Su c-bet smallish and Andrew called.

Su has AA, KK, JJ, TT, KJ, JT and AQ in his range, along with some bluffs. Hard to see Andrew calling here with less than two pair. Would be a gross cooler if Andrew has Q9.
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07-11-2019 , 01:34 PM
Thanks. Looking though the rest of the updates for Su, it seems it was his day. I'm always a bit disheartened to realize how much good luck (on top of skill) it takes just to get as far as you and AB did the last two years, how quickly it can fall apart, even with a good stack, and all it's worth is 5x your buy in.
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07-11-2019 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Stumpyyy
Thanks. Looking though the rest of the updates for Su, it seems it was his day. I'm always a bit disheartened to realize how much good luck (on top of skill) it takes just to get as far as you and AB did the last two years, how quickly it can fall apart, even with a good stack, and all it's worth is 5x your buy in.
Variance is a huge part of the game, and the long run is long indeed. I for one don't find those facts disheartening; without them, we'd all be living in the poor house playing chess with one another.
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07-11-2019 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Not yet. I'll ask him in the next day or two. The WSOP coverage said there was 500K in the pot on Kh Jh Td 4c, and "each stuck in an additional 560K on the turn. Brokos checked from the big blind [on the 5d river] and Su slid out a bet of $2,030,000 in the hijack. Brokos dipped into the tank for two minutes before finally making the call . . . "

They're playing 30-60k. From the $500K pot size after flop betting, I'm speculating that Su raised from the HJ and Andrew called from the big blind, then Su c-bet smallish and Andrew called.

Su has AA, KK, JJ, TT, KJ, JT and AQ in his range, along with some bluffs. Hard to see Andrew calling here with less than two pair. Would be a gross cooler if Andrew has Q9.
Can you see a scenario where Su makes it 120-130K and Brokos makes a small 3bet, then the flop gets checked through? This might require the reporting to be a bit off on the initial pot size.

I could see playing AA passively and turning it into a bluff-catcher against what feels like a polarized river bet size, especially if you don't have the A.
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07-11-2019 , 11:08 PM
07-12-2019 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
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Because Pluribus’s strategy was determined entirely from self-play without any human data, it also provides an outside perspective on what optimal play should look like in multiplayer no-limit Texas hold’em. Pluribus confirms the conventional human wisdom that limping (calling the “big blind” rather than folding or raising) is suboptimal for any player except the “small blind” player who already has half the big blind in the pot by the rules, and thus has to invest only half as much as the other players to call. While Pluribus initially experimented with limping when computing its blueprint strategy offline through self play, it gradually discarded this action from its strategy as self play continued. However, Pluribus disagrees with the folk wisdom that “donk betting” (starting a round by betting when one ended the previous betting round with a call) is a mistake; Pluribus does this far more often than professional humans do.

looooool


and even loler:

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07-12-2019 , 08:22 AM
lol boooo fellow Canook and friend just busted in the main. I thought we were gonna have lobster but it looks like we're just celebrating with steak.
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07-15-2019 , 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stumpyyy
This is more what I expected out of an OOT poker thread.

Howard, any details on Brokos's hand against Su?
FYI, it's on the latest podcast.

Spoiler:
J6, IIRC. I kind of expected a one pair bluff catcher.
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07-15-2019 , 10:16 PM
For those who don't know, the guy who coined OMC in his incredible thread is still in the Main Event.
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07-19-2019 , 06:55 PM
I resemble that remark.

I know one long session blah blah blah but I seem to always be upstuck and it is beyond irritating, beyond redemption
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07-19-2019 , 07:38 PM
Line check:

5/10 homegame

Villian has 250bbs, hero covers

Hero raises to 30 UTG with 9x10d
Fold, call, call, fold out

Flop is Jd2d6c
Hero check, villian bets 60, call, hero calls

Turn 8h
Check, villian bets 175, fold, hero calls

River Kd
Hero bets 300
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07-19-2019 , 08:02 PM
Seems super obvious but probably got called because villain hit his king. If you're gonna check the turn you gotta min-check-raise.
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07-19-2019 , 08:02 PM
Are 5/10 games considered home games? That used to be a term meant for playing $25 buyin, in the neighbor's garage.
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07-19-2019 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
Are 5/10 games considered home games? That used to be a term meant for playing $25 buyin, in the neighbor's garage.
What would you call it when people are playing 5/10 NL at someone's house?



Larry, you and your UTG opens.
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07-20-2019 , 12:37 AM
What’s villain’s range when he bets the turn into two players who called his flop bet?
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07-20-2019 , 01:59 AM
You're playing super lag. I do the same. The flop check call is fine but that's only to set up a turn/river bluff. When you hit gin on the turn and check you need to be raising his turn bet for value. The king is actually a pretty good card on the river. Raise to 450 on turn and if called 1200 on river or check/fold depending on the villian.
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07-20-2019 , 05:44 AM
I feel you might be trolly MLY cause c/c that flop is so bad

River you're just clicking buttons so nh
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07-20-2019 , 05:47 AM
300 way too small, bet $1k on the river.
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07-20-2019 , 05:47 AM
You never check call a flush draw so 9/10 of your bluffing range (to a tard) doesn't exist. Plus Helen Keller thinks your line is bluffy.

I don't even get what hand you play this way
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07-20-2019 , 05:49 AM
Also if you're going to try and get dumbo to fold 300 >>>>>> 1k
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07-20-2019 , 07:38 AM
Can we ban LBR please?

I'm not sure what line you're repping here. A stubborn laggy AK hitting tptk and betting for some reason? A scared pair that... errr.. bet the king for some reason? Are you seriously trying to rep KK? Old dudes don't play KK like that. If you had a set you would have just bet every street or c/r the turn or something.

Villain could have a lot of jacks. Could have a set. Could have a flush draw. Would be tough folding a pair to your line.
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07-20-2019 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DoctorZangief
Can we ban LBR please?
Of all the dumb things you've posted, this might be the dumbest.
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