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07-05-2019 , 10:22 PM
Plant?


Plant?
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07-06-2019 , 03:42 AM
Not a shrub. Not a shrub...


A Plant.
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07-06-2019 , 09:15 AM
I have successfully gotten my family un-86d from multiple casinos for instigating people into punching them at the table. The punchers are still banned. lol.
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07-06-2019 , 09:41 AM
Didn't Jmakin ban you?
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07-06-2019 , 10:44 AM
**** I actually just deleted something because it was too mean what's happening to me
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07-06-2019 , 11:09 AM
That was maybe the worst misuse of a free pass in 2+2 history.
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07-06-2019 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I see that Howard's anti-shoe revolution is going to weird places.

I am the polar opposite of that dude in every respect. WTF.
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07-06-2019 , 04:24 PM
Bust out hand line check:

Villain is a very competent euro grinder on about 80k. Effective is my stack at 28k. In three previous spots, I c-bet a flop to this guy and check-folded his turn bets.

We’re playing 300-500-500. I raise to 1300 from the hijack with AsAh. Villain flats.

(3900) JsJdTs

I continue for 1300. Villain calls.

(6600) 8d.

I check. Villain bets 3100. I check-raise to 9400. Villain calls.

(25400) 2h

I check. Villain jams. I’ve got between 17 and 18k left. Call is very likely bad, esp because I have the As. Turn c/r is exploitive on my part given history with villain.

In any event, I called and he showed JTo.
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07-06-2019 , 04:44 PM
Sorry about the bust-out, Howard. Does seem like a river fold after villain calls the turn c/r.
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07-06-2019 , 07:55 PM
I like the c/r but once he calls its time to abandon ship.
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07-06-2019 , 08:03 PM
Did you at least show the AA to everyone and pull your pants down?
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07-06-2019 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
I like the c/r but once he calls its time to abandon ship.
The Legend is correct once again!
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07-06-2019 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
The Legend is correct once again!
Why are you c/r then? Also, don't reply I hate that I just thought about poker, and probably missing something obvious.
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07-06-2019 , 09:38 PM
Villain can easily be betting one of several draws and is making a mistake to call the c/r if that's what he's on (only getting around 3:1). If he's on the ten then he might call, but the river is going check-check a lot in that case, which is also a fine result.
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07-06-2019 , 11:33 PM
I’d c/r flop in hero’s shoes.
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07-06-2019 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by txdome
Why are you c/r then? Also, don't reply I hate that I just thought about poker, and probably missing something obvious.


I hate that my car’s steering wheel flies off while I’m driving.
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07-07-2019 , 01:07 AM
I have no idea what's going on in this hand lol donkaments I guess
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07-07-2019 , 01:50 AM
I think folding the river (after the turn c/r that I don't like) is pretty bad
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07-07-2019 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Not a wonderful poker day. Line check please:

120BB effectives. UTG (rec, mid-fifties, not tricky) raises to 2.25bb. UTG+2 (another rec, also not tricky) raises to 7.0. Next to act, I flat with QdQh. Folds to UTG who calls.

23bb Jh Td 6s. Check, 8.0bb, I call, UTG folds.

38bb 6d. Check-check.

38bb 2h. Villain leads 18bb.

I called it off. Villain had AA.
Just seeing this now.

Why did you check the turn?
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07-07-2019 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by patron
Just seeing this now.



Why did you check the turn?
Im also curious. I know I'm betting it frequently.
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07-07-2019 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Bust out hand line check:

Villain is a very competent euro grinder on about 80k. Effective is my stack at 28k. In three previous spots, I c-bet a flop to this guy and check-folded his turn bets.

We’re playing 300-500-500. I raise to 1300 from the hijack with AsAh. Villain flats.

(3900) JsJdTs

I continue for 1300. Villain calls.

(6600) 8d.

I check. Villain bets 3100. I check-raise to 9400. Villain calls.

(25400) 2h

I check. Villain jams. I’ve got between 17 and 18k left. Call is very likely bad, esp because I have the As. Turn c/r is exploitive on my part given history with villain.

In any event, I called and he showed JTo.
In this case, you had a plan, and I get why you check-raised the turn, in order to try to both exploit and slow down the villain's light turn bets/bluffs.

And lots of the time you'll take it down. But what was your plan if villain calls?

Betting/shoving river? I'm assuming not, since you didn't, and that would be bad after the villain's turn call.

Check-folding? I'm assuming not, since you didn't, and that would be bad, since he shoves any missed draw.

Check-calling and hoping he's bluffing, but risking this end result?

What I'm saying is that the turn c/r was bad, even if it exploits previous tendencies.
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07-07-2019 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
I’d c/r flop in hero’s shoes.


If I were in hero’s shoes ** OOT Poker Thread ** ** OOT Poker Thread ** I’d walk a mile.

This way I’d have his shoes and be a mile away.
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07-07-2019 , 07:21 AM
I just read that Jesus Ferguson was 2017 WSOP player of the year. That blows my mind.
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07-07-2019 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by patron
In this case, you had a plan, and I get why you check-raised the turn, in order to try to both exploit and slow down the villain's light turn bets/bluffs.



And lots of the time you'll take it down. But what was your plan if villain calls?



Betting/shoving river? I'm assuming not, since you didn't, and that would be bad after the villain's turn call.



Check-folding? I'm assuming not, since you didn't, and that would be bad, since he shoves any missed draw.



Check-calling and hoping he's bluffing, but risking this end result?



What I'm saying is that the turn c/r was bad, even if it exploits previous tendencies.

Plan was to fold a 9 or spade river and probably call otherwise. I also don’t much like Q or K rivers, all of which bring in plausible straights. I didn’t clearly think through the impact holding the As has on my hand, which of course takes much of his spade range out. Question here is obviously how often he folds to the CR. I think it folds out all of his Tx (AT, KT, QT and maybe T9 and T8, but obviously not JT) and 99. It also takes out his two-over hands (KQ, AQ, AK) although he likely doesn’t have AK.

Snowie suggests that the call on the end is a close question.
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07-07-2019 , 09:14 AM
seems like a great way to fold out all worse hands and get called by better hands with a hand that needs little to no protection, just call next time mate, as played you conveniently strengthened his river range pretty hard by check raising turn so you should fold, its not like you need to defend absolute bottom of your range
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