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04-09-2018 , 10:50 PM
Larry, this didn't happen in my case, and I've never seen it happen.

Has anyone ever asked to be paid the bubble after busting? I've never seen it happen.

Rexx, someone asking for the bubble to be paid has happened in every tournament I have I have ever played. This is not an uncommon occurance.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 04-09-2018 at 10:59 PM.
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04-09-2018 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabian
Saklad,

She could have easily doubled up.



Good point! Thanks. I missed that part of her post initially.

It's obvious mlylt is way better than that jealous, anti-bubble pay lady at poker!

Last edited by Saklad; 04-09-2018 at 11:02 PM.
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04-09-2018 , 11:06 PM
Sounds to me like anti-pay lady had established a really tight table image and was going to pull off a sick bluff anytime.
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04-09-2018 , 11:06 PM
Mlylt,

Fwiw, Code3 is correct about those guys making fun of you and how you should act more appropriately in the future.
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04-09-2018 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
Sounds to me like anti-pay lady was a jealous, scheming *****.

FYP
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04-09-2018 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Saklad
Good point! Thanks. I missed that part of her post initially.

It's obvious mlylt is way better than that jealous, anti-bubble pay lady at poker!
I was actually referring to the anti-bubble pay lady. I was erroneously making the assumption that if MLYLT could double up, so could anti-bubble pay lady. This was before MLYLT posted the additional (surprising) information that anti-bubble pay lady actually couldn't double up though, so the scenarios were different.
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04-09-2018 , 11:16 PM
Fine, I was wrong for berating the guy after busting and playing it off as joking.

It was fine for code3 to tell me about to help correct my behavior, but not right after I bubbled two tournaments back to back in the same freaking day and was already upset, incredibly tired with a 3 hr drive home, in the car where I couldn't escape him, or for him to bring it up without saying anything positive at all to me the entire weekend. All he did was talk about how I played hands wrong and didn't act right.....just constant nagging about everything I was doing wrong. I made it deep in two tournaments in the same weekend, I was ****ing doing something right.
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04-09-2018 , 11:17 PM
MLYLT,

Berating.

ETA: And that guy doesn't seem great for you, maybe you shouldn't be with him?
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04-09-2018 , 11:19 PM
M,

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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I made it deep in two tournaments in the same weekend, I was ****ing doing something right.

Why do you think that?
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04-09-2018 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
you pay the bubble after they have bubbled out with no discussion previously?
Negative
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04-09-2018 , 11:26 PM
M,

I'm not trying to be rude here but maybe poker isn't for you if bubbling out of tournaments is going to tilt you so badly. Or maybe stick to cash. I probably don't get the annoyance as playing multiple online tournaments at the same time I don't really get as caught up in bubbles etc. Way too busy with other tables to really let it get to me plus it's just a really bad mindset.
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04-09-2018 , 11:26 PM
El D,

Because for the most part I played really well. I was making the right decisions chasing, choosing really good spots to bluff, picking out and exploiting the right players, being aggressive in the right spots and picking up chips, successfully trapping, just in general playing well.

A few guys complimented me during breaks on some moves I had made against some pretty good players in the big tournament as well.
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04-09-2018 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fabian
MLYLT,

Berating.

ETA: And that guy doesn't seem great for you, maybe you shouldn't be with him?
Fabian,
Multiple therapists have been fired for negative talk like that.
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04-09-2018 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Haha....I didn't beg. At the final table, it was clear I was about to be out and no one was gonna consider chopping. I've played with most of the women before and have a good repore with them, so no sob story needed. There was one woman who didn't want to take away from the prize pool and the other women jumped on her and were like "no, we are each giving $20"
No chance in hell you have any repore whatsoever with any woman with whom you've played poker.
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04-09-2018 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rexx14
M,

I'm not trying to be rude here but maybe poker isn't for you if bubbling out of tournaments is going to tilt you so badly. Or maybe stick to cash. I probably don't get the annoyance as playing multiple online tournaments at the same time I don't really get as caught up in bubbles etc. Way too busy with other tables to really let it get to me plus it's just a really bad mindset.
Rexx,
Playing live is different. I don't get to do it that often, so it's something I've been waiting for for a couple of months. Also, I assume the buy ins and payouts are sustantially larger than what you are paying for multiple online tournaments at once. When you wait 2 months to play tournaments, travel, book rooms, ect. and play for 16hrs over 2 days, it's a little upsetting to bubble.
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04-09-2018 , 11:32 PM
Paying out bubbles and talking chops often creates a really lame dynamic where groups of players collude against the dissenter(s), and imo, is LAME AF. TD's need to start doing silent voting more
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04-09-2018 , 11:34 PM
You should post a hand you played well to shut the naysayers up
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04-09-2018 , 11:34 PM
M,

What were the buy ins?

Also you did get paid out on one of them even though you got the bubble so you should be happy if anything.
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04-09-2018 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Fine, I was wrong for berating the guy after busting and playing it off as joking.

It was fine for code3 to tell me about to help correct my behavior, but not right after I bubbled two tournaments back to back in the same freaking day and was already upset, incredibly tired with a 3 hr drive home, in the car where I couldn't escape him, or for him to bring it up without saying anything positive at all to me the entire weekend. All he did was talk about how I played hands wrong and didn't act right.....just constant nagging about everything I was doing wrong. I made it deep in two tournaments in the same weekend, I was ****ing doing something right.
Code is right telling you to play ABC... The worst thing you can do against players who are better than you is try to outplay them. You won't and even if you wanted to try you are fundamentally bad at poker, and therefore lack the thought processes necessary to do so. Against players who are better than you GTO is your friend. I'd recommend reading Kill Phil and then Kill Everyone. I've been outta the game for awhile, but Kill Everyone is the best tournament strategy book I have read.

Also your line as you busted tourney #1 you sound like a jackass. You made a very stupid play then berate someone for calling you with a better hand? Do you not understand how polarized your range is shoving 4x pot with that many draws on the board?
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04-09-2018 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
Paying out bubbles and talking chops often creates a really lame dynamic where groups of players collude against the dissenter(s), and imo, is LAME AF. TD's need to start doing silent voting more
I agree with this.
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04-09-2018 , 11:37 PM
MLYLT,

Ah, I see the confusion.

Originally when you mentioned getting paid, you explained it win a way where the timing seemed wrong.

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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
I bubbled in the women's event too and convinced them to give me a little money.
The way you said this makes it seems like you first: lost in the bubble and then: convinced them to give you a little money.
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04-09-2018 , 11:37 PM
M,

A mature reaction to these incidences would be "yeah, I shouldn't have said what I said. I was being crabby and let my emotions get the best of me, but I now know to not behave like that when I bust a poker tournament"

It would also behoof you to realize code3 is an asshat that isn't deserving of your time and emotion
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04-09-2018 , 11:38 PM
Buy ins are between $125-$500, I don't play higher than that.

Despite getting my buy in+ for one tournament, I'm still not happy with not going deeper and cashing.

Last edited by MeLoveYouLongTime; 04-09-2018 at 11:51 PM.
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04-09-2018 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
And this is what happened. I hadn't busted out and could have easily doubled up. I put my money in the "bubble money" stack as well and agreed to pay the bubble.
Had I doubled up, the woman refusing to pay the bubble would have been the next out. Everyone at the table knew this and knew that paying the bubble would have no affect on what payout she got whatsoever(unless she was the bubble, then she would actually get some money). Maybe it was mean to gang up on her about it because she didn't realize this herself or see she was the worst player at the table and refusing to pay the bubble for no reason.
1. *effect

2. Can someone explain bolded to me? If everyone is paying the bubble $20, then each player's payout is effectively $20 less. So how does paying the bubble not affect the payout received?

Unless MLYLT is claiming that since the $20 is coming out of each player's wallet and not the prize pool, the payouts are technically unchanged. That seems like a pretty idiotic way to perceive the whole situation, so I'm hoping that maybe I'm just not understanding it correctly.
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04-09-2018 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Payouts are between $125-$500, I don't play higher than that.

Despite getting my buy in+ for one tournament, I'm still not happy with not going deeper and cashing.
Lol. Ok I understand you don't play much online but it's pretty easy to have buy ins and bubble situations equivalent to this with online tournaments particularly when you consider people often play a huge volume of tournaments in a day. Obviously travel costs make it more expensive for you but surely it would be a good approach to consider the whole trip as entertainment and a nice break with your bf?
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