First "cuck", now "triggered". LOL is trying so hard to be hip & edgy.

Its seldom I post in OOT outside of this thread. You are the perfect example of what I was talking about through the previous page.

LoL go back to 4chan

What's that?

They invented lol cats.

LoL always bring the heat and as such is an above replacement level poster

You're going to trigger a Howard catchphrase with this sort of talk.

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Exactly!


from a month ago in the TTPYO thread:

codesis you should be my side piece.

Let’s see if he can use snowflake and smash the trifecta!

Hip went out in the 70's, stoner.

Meh. That advice wasn't really specific to chess: with a few changes, it could be applied to teaching any game. Her posting in that forum won't be fun at least until she starts analyzing concrete chess positions.

Welcome back.

Not necessarily nothing. When my son was playing and I was a coach, at the end of each game, one kid would get the 'game ball'. A regular dirty old ball that I'd write his name and the date on.

The kid who out did himself, who really applied himself got it. So the kid who always struck out, but hit a single or double would get the ball instead of the kid who always hit a home run. But you had to do something out of the ordinary to get it, like not being afraid to dive for a pop up.

It was a little bit of nothing, but towards the end of the game the kids would start to wonder who'd get the game ball and maybe it was a bit of a carrot. It was definitely fun. All would gather around and cheer for the recipient.

Pffft. Making kids whose peak is hitting singles feel like they are worth anything? Guaranteed that generation will grow up to kill the quick-lube service station industry or something. Nice work.

Rewarding improvement, like in Josie's example, is great. Rewarding mere existence obviously less so.

Rewarding/complimenting effort is more important than rewarding accomplishment IMO.

So, World Series losers get rings and the winners get a Slurpy from 7-11. Makes sense.

Well that was the point - rewarding effort...the kids who go outside their comfort zone. Most young little leaguers are afraid to lean in lest they get hit by a pitch or even afraid to catch a pop-up. Rewarding that kind of progress, not just giving the team treats or trophies is where it's at.

And no, I don't think every ****ing kid who plays should get a trophy. But they do.

Yeah, I am on mostly on your side. I was making fun of the sky is falling, creating a snowflake generation, ultra-competitive morons who think that the only thing sports should teach you is to the winners go the spoils.

What is the supposed disaster of a kid who sucks getting a participation trophy, though? A kid who is uncoordinated, timid, low confidence or whatever but sticks with it is learning different lessons than the naturally talented star player or even the one who is improving to get the hang of it, but lessons none the less. The kids who excel and get rewarded for it have an entirely different set of pitfalls they are going to need to learn to avoid, like exclusively focusing on their strengths, avoiding what doesn't come easy for fear of failure and self-worth tied to winning and praise. Over-celebrating the talented kids is its own issue for them that is usually ignored in these convos because **** the dweebs is more pressing.

Also, just like the bull**** we teach kids about sharing (which is nearly unheard of for adults the way we expect it for kids), the notion that you are only rewarded for winning and never for just showing up is false. We need support roles. We need fillers. We need participants. The vast, vast majority of people support their family by receiving a participation award every two weeks. Making the activity only valuable if you are the best or the winner produces adults who are too jaded to let an uncoordinated kid enjoy any "underserved" recognition lest it takes the shine off the fact that some other kid is better than them.

One nice thing about the participation trophy is that it makes the end of season goodbyes easier.

"I'll never see my new soccer friend again, but I took home some hardware!"

I think the outrage over participation trophies is overdone. Participation trophies tend to be tiny. Really small. The idea that anyone would actually conflate one with a trophy for success is unrealistic.

I don't necessarily disagree. Thankfully there's a significant amount of correlation between the two when the person isn't already at their ceiling.

that was pretty much how it was. i usually felt a sinking feeling towards the latter innings of each season's finale. altho it's also true that the achievement trophies for things like winning the league or top place in a tournament held a more significant meaning. hard to say if the all-star game participation trophies are stupid or not....for that i had to earn my teammates respect and it probably influenced a drive to work harder in the off season.