Fabian: you’re not necessarily wrong about my posting.

Dodger: if she would have simply asked me to not say what I said or to apologize I would have quickly.

But she had to attack me and make up this logical fallacy where because she’s insulted I’m now a sexual predator and criminal and it’s apparently obviously and clear by my posting history according to her.

Again, if she would have just asked me to not say what I said or asked for an apology we wouldn’t be here. But she’s a nasty and rude person.

As Rexx said, it was rude and probably out of line to make the off hand comment I made originally - but that is no excuse for her nasty behavior.

Once again if she would have just asked me to not say it or to apology would have gladly obliged and likely offered apologies without prompting.

But she can choke on a cigarette for all I care now.

I think I'd probably be triggered too if someone implied I was a pedo or rapist with zero reason apart from a "vibe". That's why some people regardless if they think mlylt may have a point don't back her up. Plus she's gone out of her way to turn most people against her here. Meh.

I’m gonna self contain here in OOT for a couple of days, I’m clearly upset and I don’t want that to **** on any other threads

Thanks ThayThay and El D and holy Natamus Prime.

"If you've never encountered a child molester, the vibe Nat is putting off is one and the same."

mbabs - here's the deal: I accept your apology now that you've made a real one, and bear you no ill will for how you treated me. It's forgiven and we can both move on from that.

However, that doesn't change the fact that you are indeed a horrible person. The reason you are a horrible person has nothing to do with our interaction. It has everything to do with the fact that you are going to single-handedly ruin your daughter's life and turn her into mbabs jr. You continue to put your wants ahead of your daughter's needs, and that is ****ed up. Your mental condition requires treatment. You refuse to prioritize that, and your daughter is going to suffer for the rest of her life because of it. That is why you are a horrible person. You are also a horrible person for other reasons (including accusing Nat of being a child molester), but the primary reason is how you treat your daughter.

Change your behavior and put your daughter first. Stop accusing people of being pedos if they question the veracity of your statements. When you stop being a horrible person, I'll stop referring to you as a horrible person.

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OOT - Nat was not out of line. Here's what he said:

while the "childhood is full of magic" is certainly pushing it, the "non-zero percentage" is completely fine given mbabs' admission of the magic show, status as an unreliable narrator, and continual & repeated instances of describing situations that end up being revealed as being completely different in reality than from her original description.

There is absolutely no question that mbabs has suffered abuse. But that doesn't mean that everything she has claimed is 100% true, and that's what Nat is saying here.

In normal situations and without any additional information, it is best to default to believing claims of abuse. That doesn't mean that it is correct to always believe them, especially when other factors are present. If someone is locked up alone in a 24/7 video monitored psych ward and says that a group of 50 dudes came in and raped them, it's OK to have a little disbelief after reviewing the tape reveals them just crying in the corner the entire time.

mbabs has little to no credibility, and there's nothing wrong with pointing out that some non-zero percentage of her childhood stories are likely false. Especially given how many of her stories as an adult have already been proven to be false. Does anyone really think she's just going to arbitrarily decide to only lie about adult stories, and keep all the childhood ones completely true? Really?


Again - there is no doubt mbabs has suffered abuse. There is also very little doubt she had a ****ty childhood. That does not make it OK for her to call someone a rapist pedo because they suggested that something less than 100% of her stories are true, given her admitted history of lying, the magic show admission, and her general status as an unreliable narrator.

Well said Chop.

IIRC I don’t think anyone was really doubting the sexual abuse stuff, more the “oliver twist” storyline.

I went and found Nat's post because I didn't think he referenced specifically sexual abuse I wasn't 100% sure.

I think one of the reasons I feel uncomfortable making strong statements regarding abuse in childhood or sexual abuse generally is that often people with mental health issues aren't believed when it has genuinely occurred and so can be targeted by predators. Also happens with general medical treatment that issues people are having are written off as "just in their head" or whatever. It's a fine line to work out what someone is delusional about and I'm certainly not qualified to do so.

Things she lies about on here that she's caught out on are fair game though imo. Particularly when she's so vile to people. As Dodger said there are so many other things you could quite fairly ridicule that she does as an adult, just go with them and leave her childhood out of it.

I even used the term “twisted events” but no she took it, made it extreme and is now championing that I’m some sort of creepy predator because of the “vibe” she gets

She’s a pathetic human being

I just realised Chop already posted Nat's post, sorry for the double up.

Nat,

You've got every right to be offended being called a sexual predator. It's a disgusting thing to say to someone. I have to say I'm terribly surprised nobody from here has trainwrecked her rl with the abuse that she gives out. A terribly restrained bunch of people imo.

I think there is no shortage of people here willing to do that, but the disastrous consequences for an innocent child would be too much for anyone to go through with unless they were actually a completely deranged sociopath.

Part of the reason the babs stuff is so entertaining is he's such a colossal piece of **** but there's effectively no one caught in the crossfire and no real negative consequences for him or anyone involved with him - if you discount the probable pain and anguish he brings on his family, which is of his own doing anyway.

With most of the M stuff I just feel an overwhelming sense of sadness because I don't think the story ends well.

Nat, it's called a PM because it's a PRIVATE message.

In better times posting a PM without permission would get you banned. FWIW the more I see of your posting, the less I like you.

Just stop needling someone with obvious mental issues in the hope of getting a rise out of them and generating some forum drama. You're a pretty pathetic example yourself imo.

Gin,

I’ve never really cared for your posting so I’m glad we’re now on equal footing. Your assumptions about my intentions are off but unsurprising.

Rexx: I take your same approach wrt these types of claims. In general I just act like they’re all true unless given strong evidence to the contrary because if I’m fooled by someone’s lies about personal history on the internet, so what?

Nat: sorry this whole episode brought back up some rough **** for you. But don’t let yourself get sucked into this stuff more than you really need to be.

Zang: I’m fully aware of that. And for an investor/Trader/etc I’d recommend other options. But for a “just in case” purchaser I think coinbase is a great option. If coins go to 1M each, it won’t really matter whether 27 got in for 7500 or 7400.

Nat has been lobbing grenades at mbabs for a while. He's posted that she is sub-human at least a dozen times, I just can't understand why his tone makes her uncomfortable either!

MLYLT's long history of being a crazy ******* has made the vast majority of people discount her humanity. And I think it's an appropriate reaction to have to guard against disappointment, anger, etc., when she continues to be a crazy *******.

The Natamus situation went like this: Natamus said MLYLT is likely embellishing because he has firsthand experience both with her doing the same thing and with a friend of his who is otherwise normal doing the same thing. MLYLT lost her ****ing mind because she's a crazy ******* and attacked Natamus personally. Natamus then attacked MLYLT personally. No big deal.

I don't think Natamus deserves any grief for what he did. He could have just ignored MLYLT, which would have been more effective and a whole lot funnier because she'd just keep getting increasingly wacky with PMs and posts, but striking back when someone calls you a pedophile rapist is not out of bounds.

MLYLT, head on back to the Happy Thoughts blog so you can spin more yarns about coworkers hitting on you. I enjoy your stories.

There is almost no doubt that MLYLT embellishes stories about her childhood. I suspect we all do. Her wild and insane overreaction to Nat is typical of her.

@Nat: why do you let M trigger you? You know she has no idea what she’s talking about most of the time and makes up half of the rest. So her accusations directed at you aren’t even worth raising your heart rate by a point.

Your Friend

Howard

There are ~6 dimwitted apologists in OOT that comment just to make assertions and admonish people/victims for how they react to human garbage. They'd rather enable/perpetuate abuse than make waves because they're pussies.

Duuude. You should really STFU about being pussy.

Lapka your questions for me weren't important.

TL;DR:

Bipolar sociopath proves they will lie about anything.
People point out that child abuse/sexual assault/cancer/mental disability/pregnancy/boyfriend neglect/STDs/whatever is included in the category of 'anything'.
Dullards attempt to virtue signal how woke they are by preaching that we should believe all lying bipolar sociopaths because they might really be a victim of child abuse/sexual assault/cancer/mental disability/pregnancy/boyfriend neglect/STDs/whatever.
Everyone else rolls their eyes and shrugs, but deep down know this proven lying bipolar sociopath is probably lying about this particular anything.

As DZ further lowers himself to the floor, begging for unrequited abuse since raining down messages of **** on Howard’s wsop stream....

Hard truth tellers get the attention they deserve.

Get 'em.

DZ,

Lapka sees right through your tough facade!