I ****ed 7 girls from pof in the last 6 months,here's what worked for me:
1. Your first message should be funny&cocky but do not compliment her on her looks.
Also,mass message do not change it based on her profile. I did 20-30 messages a day.
Some of the messages I used:
I'm luring girls to my house with candy,which do you prefer m&ms or gummy bears?
Hey goof,I bet my headline can beat up your headline.
You seem adventurous. I'm taking you to Paris in a hot air balloon.
2. Do not become a pen pal. Get the # after 4-5 messages and switch to text the same day. I usually do it 10/15min after I get the #.
This closing message is money:
"This pof stuff is getting too nerdy for me. Shoot me a text ###-###-#### or your nr. I promise I'm only going to stalk you on Thursdays"
3. Set up the date in the next 2-3 days don't wait around.
EDIT: here's the best post you'll ever need for online dating from a pua forum:
The Complete Guide To Meeting Women Online
I read through some posts on the forum, and I’m seeing the fun factor in online dating. I’m going to play around with it, but first I wanted to structure what I’ve gathered into an organized format and then seek advice from guys that are having success with this area.
I’ve always been a cold approach and social circle guy (and will never quit that), but may as well expand my resources.
I’m not creating a guide from my own experience, but combining everything I’ve gathered and then seeking advice from guys that have had success with this.
I am pretty much taking everything from other posts verbatim (giving credit) and organizing it. If I forget to give credit where it is due, I’m sorry.
Keep in mind that everything mentioned is simply a guideline – feel free to bend “the rules” to accommodate your liking or the situation on hand.
What Websites To Use
OkCupid, Match.com, and Plenty of Fish (PoF) seem to be the most popular websites for online dating. You can use HOTorNOT too. I couldn’t get my profile approved, and I’m not sure why – they never emailed me back….****ers.
How To Set Up Your Profile
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Use the absolute best pictures of yourself from start to finish. Get all of your pictures rated online or ask women that you are seeing which pictures are the best of you.
If you are worried about your looks, use pictures that show how cool your life is. If you are athletic, include pictures of you in your sport or without a shirt on if you are shredded. Use your lifestyle to your benefit.
Don’t include pictures of you with other girls – it may not matter, but it probably won’t help.
Create a shocking and offensive BUT funny headline - make sure it expresses who you are though.
Examples: "I'm a prick" Or "Not your average Dbag" or something stupid like that.
Keep your profile short and random. Don’t provide any real information with substance. Keep EVERYTHING short and brief – your profile, your headline, your communication, …everything. If anything is too long it is obvious you are too invested.
Examples: Like, "I like frozen organic blueberries, I brush my teeth in the shower, I'm a lifelong supporter of crest whitestrips"
Your profile should be fun! Keep the entire experience fun from beginning to end.
Your profile content must be playful and establish that you are the selector.
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A kick ass thing I came up with was preempt the meet-up in my profile. There's a line in there about having a "real kick-back social house that everyone comes thru and parties at"
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One quick tip is cut out all predictable info. Don't share your job, don't say you like art and travel, don't say that you're posting to meet new people, ect. Basic rule of thumb is if you've read it anywhere else it's no good... Keep it original and don't be bound by conventionality.
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Reflecting on Ryan's advice, you still should include little bits of information about you that are authentic with what you like. Don't make it common place, but put something unique you enjoy.
When You Are Noticed (Using PoF)
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If you are on PoF then you have a feature to see who has looked at your profile. Send a girl a message if she looks at your profile!
The First Message
Call the girl out for looking at your profile and not dropping you a line. Accuse her of playing games and how it would never work (push/pull stuff).
From there, you can send a couple more emails and get the number or even set up a meet up immediately.
Directly Quoting Gorawdog Another technique I use now I call "number seeding" .
I always give out my number on the second email, and then I cut all email after that. The ones that text you are DTF. This is the simplest way to tell if she’s into you and DTF.
The Meetup
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If you get a number, text them immediately so they have your name/number. Then just keep some delayed banter going.
Be forward with women you meet online. A meetup shouldn’t take longer than a day or two.
This attitude will result in bad blowouts at times, but remember the abundance mentality!
Remember, give the girls **** and be forward, but always keep it in a funny demeanor.
Directly Quoting Gorawdog I been using this technique lately when I'm on the first meetup – I call it "active disqualification."
You know when there's that awkward moment where you can't really tell if she's feeling you, and the awkwardness of the online meetup comes in?
Whenever I get that feeling, I immediately look for a way to disqualify myself.
Last night, this chick mentioned something about dick size. I said: “you don't like small dicks?” Waiting for her to say no…then I told her: “well we aren’t ever going to work because I'm hung like a ****ing light switch, but it's not that bad because it's perfect for anal.
She laughs, and it is on.
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Assuming you didn’t make plans to meet up after the first phone call, you should make a plan the second day. Always try to arrange the meet up in a public place first so she feels safe.
Hookah lounges are a great place to go. You’ll be sitting close to the girl, so it is easy to physically escalate and it is a chill place where you can easily vibe with her.
After the hookah lounge (or some other chill place), bounce to a higher energy environment or straight to your place.
Girls that are under 21 will most likely love the opportunity to get drunk, so they won’t object when you tell them “hey, let’s go drink at my place.”
Now, escalate, escalate, escalate, extract (if you aren’t at your place), and CLOSE!
Looking At Other Profiles
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You should be sending random emails to other attractive girls, but the most consistent success comes from girls that view your profile.
A great way to get a girl to view your profile on PoF is view her profile, and don’t send a message so she will check yours out.
You can keep a similar structure in your random emails you send out, but you should try to include something from the girl’s profile.
Don’t Waste Your Time
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Don't get caught up in being pen pals. If a girl isn’t willing to meet up after a few emails, leave her your number and move on.
Chatting Online
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If a girl you want to meet is online, instant message them with something shocking, like: “I ****ing love you.”
They usually respond with: “What? You don’t even know me…” – **** like that
Don’t apologize or suggest that you are not serious.
Continue with the joke by saying even more ridiculous things, like: “jeez you had me at hello” or “So listen me and you are going to run away to paris together. We'll leave at the break of dawn and bring absolutely nothing. We will have no money, no food, and no real plan, all we will have is each other and we will fall ever so deeply in love"
Eventually after a few messages she will begin to play along, which is golden.
Keep spewing off random absurd things until you feel you've got her hooked then move over to rapport questions.
After a bit I will usually deliver the wonderful line: "So I have a question for you” – wait until she says “yes?”
“On a scale from 1 to 563 how adventurous are you?" – anything playful and silly is going to be good
Her answer is irrelevant, just respond with “Great! So what’s your number?” or “Awesome. Well my number is XXX-XXX-XXXX text me”
Or if you’re free, you can say: "Great! so lets meet up TODAY"
Half of the time she will give you some sort of objection and half the time she won't.
Just dismiss the objection or even flip the script.
Example: "But you're some random guy over the internet"
"Wow....jeez ur right....what if you're some serial killer psycho bitch or something......."
The key is to keep her laughing and then ask again. Be persistent, and eventually she will give in.
Sending Messages
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If a girl you want to meet isn’t online, send them a default message:
Message title: << click here for a free puppy >>
Message body:
Deer Username, I am slowly falling under the impression that you and I would probably make beautiful babies. But here's the deal....if it’s a girl you can name her but if it’s a boy I get to name him. I would also like to complete the family by buying a pet duck. I think it would make a great addition. Just a thought....get back to me and let me know your opinions on this.
Forever yours (and forever young),
Your Name
That is directly from insertusernamehere. If you are intelligent, you’ll see why this is affective! It is random, obviously different than anything any other guy has sent her, and it is funny and full of self-amusement. I’d encourage everyone to make their OWN default message, but play around with this.
Because the message title stand out, your message will always be read. You will usually (not always) get a reply – even from hot girls that get messaged daily.
Often, the girl will reply with something lame, but this is irrelevant. The purpose of the message is to get her interested, and then use instant messaging to move things forward.
After you get a reply, browse all of the online users and message the girl if she is online. If you are having trouble catching her online, send her a message asking if she has AIM or Yahoo IM and get her screenname.
You can always get the number and move straight to texting as well.
Building Rapport
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After getting the number, start building rapport with the girl. Figure out what she does for work and if she is in school so you can plan a meet up.
ALWAYS call before arranging a meet up with the girl. It solidifies you and it shows her that you are:
A. A cool guy – it is very easy to be something you are not on the internet. B. Not too shy to make a move – yes, calling is making a move, you’re taking things to the next step C. Serious about getting to know her and meet up with her
At the end of the call, mention something like: “I think we should meet up soon” or “Let’s make a plan to meet up soon.”
Notes from insertusernamehere
There is NO SUCH THING as too ridiculous or too absurd.
Persistence is the key when you’re trying to get the phone number.
If the girl seems flakey or does flake on the first arranged meet up, just lay low for a couple days and don’t text or call her. If she texts or calls you, then you know it is still on. If not, it’s probably still on, so just resume as if she never flaked in the first place.
I'm going to set up a profile this week, and see what you guys think. If you have any more suggestions, let me know and I'll keep updating this. I haven't found a solid and organized thread like this before, so may as well make this
Last edited by BadLieutenant; 12-07-2012 at 01:00 PM.
I moved here from southern California and so far so good
