gonna be honest, i stopped reading after this. seriously dude, i think getting yourself back in order should be a higher priority than dating weird women.

It was one drink and I got home in time for a good night's rest. In addition I was able to hang with a 7+ for an hour and a half, confirm physical attraction and set up another time for a date. Seems pretty successful all around.

It's awkward for me because I don't know where in the bar they're sitting, how big of a group it is, which people I'm looking for (people from my old job have a bunch of HH's and you never know who will be there). No matter what bar we go to it's usually pretty full & I just see a sea of people until someone starts waving me in. This must just happen to me

Movie: ATF is either not very self-aware or a troll, so pretty pointless bringing up that kind of super obvious stuff. Instead just enjoy the stories, which could easily be real or made up, either way entertaining IMO.

CDL: tough call. Where do you live? In most places 830 is default after dinner, but lots of big cities it can br ambiguous. I don't think you can be too mad when you go to a place that serves food and are seated at a table rather than a bar. If I really want to commit to drinks only, I'll say something like "I have some early dinner plans, but will be done by 8, so how about drinks 830?" But I typically eat pretty late anyway so usually go to places that have good small plates at the bar and ask the girl if we should get something to nibble on, and that way keeps things flexible - if we're having fun can order more drinks and snacks, if not can bail.

cdl if you date any GT grads from around 2010 tell them you know me

This doesn't sound like a date.

Obvi her being religious is a sick beat, but I've had things like this happen to me before. If you aren't feeling the chemistry (probably the only reason you would actively want to prevent her from ordering food unless you're just kind of an ass) and you are positive the date isn't going anywhere, you can mention that you just ate dinner in passing or something when the menus come. Or you could just say something like "no i just had a huge meal!" right when the waitress shows up and asks you.

You are correct though in that 8:30 is not dinner- between the timing and the fact that you said "drinks somewhere?", you made it clear enough that the expectation is not that you will order a full meal

yeah i started writing a response and then realized this.

if any of the 4 hot ones are single and still in ATL tell them to ship me a pm on here.

Cdl,

You should be hanging out with ffk!

she is cool but married though so you are down to 3

Cooking date with bedwetting girl. She agreed to cook a cajun shimp meal for us, but threw me a curveball by suggesting I go over to her place instead. I bring the food over there and she cooks it up. I do little to help with the meal besides peeling all the shrimp, but she does a good job.

We start watching TV on her laptop, Orange is the new black. Our seating situation is awkward as shes in some wicker basket chair and I'm in some low couch. The height difference is such that me rubbing her leg would have my shoulder in a lateral raise position. She has to read something for class on her kindle which she is resting on the leg near me. I wind up just watching the show for a while and then complimenting her rubbing her leg and asking if she wanted to cuddle.she said some form of maybe.

My original plan was to snuggle up watching movie and make whatever moves I can from there, but we both plan to get up early tomorrow and she seems to want to just sleep. She changes into sleeping T shirt + shorts and I strip down to boxers and go up there with her(her bed is raised near the ceiling) She doesn't want to cuddle because the A/C doesn't circulate well (which is true, its a goddamn sauna up there which is why I didn't want to sleep there) So Im kind laying near her with my right hand on her leg/ass depending on her position, but she appears to be trying to sleep.

When she turns to face me I complement her more and start kissing her and she says" I have to tell you something. I don't want a relationship I just want to be friends now." mentions something about an ex and possibly working it out. I don't really know what to do but it's uncomfortable hot and she doesn't want to come over to my place so I get dressed and head home. She says Im nice she likes kissing me/doing stuff but cant, something like shes sure I can find another girl to kiss.

So part of me is reading the story thinking I must have just been a pussy somewhere and lost her interest, but I've already tried to move things along. Maybe I seemed to available. Maybe lol women? IDK I guess I just have to never talk to her again

So to recap the status 3 times in bed w/ bedwetting girl, no sexual release. I'm down to 2 unpromising numbers, with 2 longshots that girls reinitiate with me.

bobbo... that sucks, but it seems like there were signs there you just didn't want to see, so you ignored them. In response to your comment "Maybe lol women?" I can only say that not all of us behave that way.

Don't give up; hopefully you'll have better luck with the next one.

She probably has plenty of hot single friends though. If I lived in ATL I'd tell her to hook me up.

maybe shes not a lesbian.

please dont ever ask a girl again to cuddle. the nonstop compliments must make her want to vomit also.

Man I can see online dating becoming a serious time drainer. I'm only messaging a few girls but I came home today and had 4 replies to make. I can only imagine your pipeline steadily grows as well, so if you've been doing this for months (and are still relatively active) you could easily have 10+ messages/day.

I just feel like you get to be way pickier, just stop replying to some of the less interesting girls when running out of time or just not message new ones for a week. Writing that stuff is pretty time consuming though.

I am no women expert but I think all she was saying is dont expect anything but sex tonight, and you blew it. Be more aggressive.

Yeah, I think that's a safe assumption:

Btw, did you actually say "Do you want to cuddle?"

wrt Bob I agree more with this sentiment vs. be more aggressive sentiment. Obv the cuddle comments are kinda edgy but I don't think she was feeling it that much .. ?

What the hell is wrong with you? You're out to a cafe with a girl and you're actually emotionally invested in what she's ordering instead of maybe enjoying yourself? This thread is a little too circle-jerky for my liking if you're not immediately called out for this. The past ~300 posts have quickly devolved from positive group therapy to something that vaguely resembles the worst of PUAs, assburgers and entitlement complexes mashed together.

Jesus christ most of these TR are so obviously biased and they STILL manage to make you guys come across as neurotic (the southern accent thing is something I could imagine Jerry or Elaine saying, not a real person) boring (cough Tyler Durden) or dumb (altho our ESL friends get a pass). God only knows what else we'd hear if we got these girls' perspective.

yes

I guess I just don't like to feel that I'm prying the sex out of them. I like there to be some back and forth and she seemed to be acting more like we were just hanging out as friends. I can't really think of how it would be different unless the difference is I'm just supposed to start having sex with her.

It was pretty tough to escalate from the low ****ty couch chair to her taller wicker basket chair.Home bed advantage would have been huge but she didn't want to come over. Maybe I should have asked earlier.

Hi crazyCanook, I'm not sure if your reading comprehension is great or not. He was pissed off that she was ordering dinner when he didn't want to get FOOD. He wasn't pissed off that she was taking her time choosing what type of food. That's my reading.