Sorry, having a hard time figuring out what the **** are Sandra, makes for some very awesome/weird post ... Sounds like a great time tho.

On asking out/number, I feel like I might be slightly weak in my asking out but has worked pretty good for now;
A city Ive never been and she just moved in a few days back


US girl from a city thats somewhat far away for me, didnt specify to much as its kinda far away


Dutch girl who opened me


All in the 3rd message. I'll usually follow up with here's my number in case and sometimes Ill ask for her number depending on how far we are with setting up the actual date (the more is settled the less I need her number).

Now, Im having an issue, one of these girls was going to go out with me tomorow but she wanted to reschedule to wednesday next week. I said sure cool, however now we have each others number and my texting game is pretty weak, I dont want to mess her up before we actually meet esp. as I feel she's kinda into me atm. How do you sustain contact without getting into constant texting ? We're using the whatsapp so its basicly like MSN/ICQ/AOL all over again. I hate real time chatting and feel like Im pretty bad and use to much smilies but Im pretty sure Im turning her of by not responding to her untill date day .

Haha. I basically went for a poo multiple times because I was nervous. The last one is poo too, rather than me saying I want to f uck myself.

Is it wrong to have 20 girl's engaged ? Even tho i'd like to date each one at least once ?

1. Doesn't matter that you've never been, DON'T ask her to suggest a place! Pretend you have been or that you've got recommendations. Take control.
2. Fine but forget about the plans bit. Coming across as not having plans is bad.
3. Fine

Text her two different options day-wise. She'll respond saying a preference and you confirm with 'Cool, see you then'. That should end the chat for now and the onus is on her if she wants to continue it. If she does, don't give long responses. If it's a long time till the date it's a judgment call as to when you text, but texting less is far preferable to more. My third date on Friday suggested the day more than a week in advance and I left the texting for four days, not wanting to text out of turn. She texted me last night asking me how I was doing and we confirmed Friday was still good.

Well obv you're going to have hell managing all those. If you're lucky enough to be as attractive as you must be, you can afford to be selective and whittle them down to four or five

Think i've sent out 3 emails ( 3 date's ) after i redone my profile and uploaded new pic's.... The rest opened me ??? Girl's are 6-8 on average - With a few 9s there aswell....... Learned alot of game from this thread so i'd like to give something back !

Wait, are you saying that of the 20 girls you have on the go, 17 of them messaged you first? Are you a matinee idol?

Yes they have' honestly !

I completely disagree with you, but in the end I guess both ways tend to work so just a matter of style.

1. I don't see why you would want to set up the date through the dating site when the goal is to get conmunication off the site asap.

2. Giving your # first is weak imo especially since some girls will refuse to initiate the first text.

3. Don't think it's weird at all to ask for her # before a date is set since it makes text game much easier since you will just be sorting out details. Kind of hard to mess that up, especially with so many guys saying their text game is weak.

The first one is pretty bad and comes off as weak imo, don't ever give her an easy out by saying "if you're not too busy".

The 3rd one is much better, but I still think you should just be more direct as it comes off more confident.

2 of my recent examples of how I ended my 3rd messages:
I'm thinking we should meet. If you're up for it send me your # and we'll figure out the details over text.

Let's meet up for a drink. Send me you # and we can sort out the details over text.

In both instances they responded back with "Sounds great. ###-#### "

I dislike any asking out message that begins with "if". Just ask "would you like to meet for a drink?" or "let's get together for a drink sometime. Are you free on X?"

This is what I do.

fwiw, I post on another forum that is dominated by women. They have a dating thread that is also dominated by women. Apparently a lot of women are put off by guys just coming straight out and asking them for their number like that. It does seem a bit awkward to me and I've never done it that way. Having said that, it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, but women do seem to find it off putting.

Edit: to elaborate, a lot of women seem to think it's asymmetrical for the guy to have her number but not his. They seem to think it shows good faith and makes them more comfortable when the man initiates by giving his number. They appear to feel less vulnerable.

it's one of those things that can go either way. I have had threads where I gave my number first and fully expected them to reciprocate. A lot of times they either did or just texted me later.

This makes sense, but it's not like I'm just asking for their number. First I'm asking them out followed by the # in the next sentence. I find it hard to understand how they would feel vulnerable in that situation since it is clear why I'm asking for their # and what I plan on doing with it.

I find the texting issue interesting. I don't have a smart phone, so no whatsapp, and most people have to pay per text, so that is never an issue with me and anyone I'm dating. Texting is purely to set things up, iron out details, etc. Using OKC or FB messaging to communicate in between dates or before the first date, I just keep my response times relatively slow because I have no desire to be chatting the whole time. I don't wait days or anything, but usually a couple of hours. Don't know if that is the best strategy but it's what I do.

Here's a Seinfeldian situation:

I went to a party at my parents' house a couple nights ago. They had some hired help and one of the women was pretty hot. She is Bolivian so we spoke some Spanish. She mentioned that she cleans apartments/houses so we exchanged numbers and she is going to come check out my place to clean it. There was some light flirting going on. How do I transition this into hooking up with her? My female friend mentioned that I should take a shower while she is cleaning the bedroom and then enter wearing just the towel while I get my boxers.

Any other fun ideas? TIA.

This whole situation is very creepy. Coming into the bedroom nude with just a towel while she's being paid to clean your bedroom seems almost rapey to me. If you were interested in this woman you should have just asked her out, though I'm against harassing women while they are at work. Paying her to come to your house so you can harass her by walking around nude seems to be the worst possible way of going about this (short of actually attacking her).

You took me too seriously.

Starting to get a bit burned out with this whole process. I've only sent out 6 messages in the past month. Partly because I had two girls I was seeing for a few dates each but it looks like neither of those are going anywhere and I still don't have any motivation to find more. I had a girl open with me yesterday and I almost completely blew her off. Her profile picture looked terrible. Nasty looking costume/covered in mud from one of those runs that are popular these days. For some reason I looked at her profile anyway and she's like an 8-9 when she cleans up. Still have nothing in common though. She's all about running and traveling and I do neither.

When I said "the whole situation" I meant the whole situation. It is all creepy even if the towel thing was a joke. Paying a woman to come to your place and then thinking about how to "transition" to hooking up with her is creepy. It's like you're setting a trap for her and asking the best way to pounce on your prey.

Have her 'accidentally' find a packet of XXL condoms.

This was *the* perfect response.
The people in the cubes around me had to ask why I was laughing so loud.

Good work. Thank you for that.

I have a pretty hot and young housekeeper and there are a lot of less intimidating ways of hitting on her, you can basicly just talk her into it imo.

@my weak opener, she actually flaked out on picking a place and said lets just meet at street x and I said cool we'll see what happens. I did some research and have a pretty nicely laid out plan with a few backups in case we're having fun and hitting it off. Hoping to make up on that weakness there .

I'm only quoting this post since it's your shortest, but the others make the mistake more: apostrophes have an actual purpose!! Next time you think of using one, don't.

Girl I'm meeting tonight is all about outdoorsy stuff and music which I know nothing about.

And she put communism is good and government should limit big businesses to give small ones a chance...