I thought boob groping was standard before fast lateral hug.

I like to calmly and deliberately place my hand on their inner thigh while maintaining unbreaking eye contact. Usually within the first five minutes.

Lol. Do you mean British girls are used to British guys being ugly, or you think British girls are ugly, or both?

There is an absolute abundance of hot girls in London FWIW.

Bounce is a great first date venue by the way. A real sense of energy and excitement, decent food if you want, varied music, ok prices, pingpong if you want to, good lighting.

This guys gets it

Razz,

Week after next sounds great, I know some good spots to celebrate getting your life back. I'm in <place> - have you explored this part of London much? My cell is <weird euro cell number>, let's touch base next week and figure out a plan. Good luck with your project!

Hehe. I don't know. I have some probably stereotypical picture of a British dude in my mind -think of Wayne Rooney... . And when they should be used to those looks I thought it might be a bit easier to secure a date with them...thats all.

Yeah -she has a very short profile, so is probably not taking me/dating in general too seriously. I will get back to her, give her my number and keep it short as I don't want to stretch those exchanges into too much length. Then will try and contact her again in about those two weeks I guess... .

El Diablo's line seems pretty good.

Question about the religion line in your profile. I'm Jewish but very non-practicing and definitely don't "look" Jewish so you would never know. More of a cultural thing than a God thing by far for me. Is it +ev or -ev to list "Judaism and not very serious about it" in my profile? I live in an area where there are more Jews than lots of other regions of the country. Will it help with Jewish girls more than it might hurt? Right now I have that line blank fwiw.

I would leave the Jewish thing since I think most non-jewish girls don't care too much whereas it is a deal breaker for Jewish girls as I have come to find out lol. I once received a response from a girl I opened with without noticing she was Jewish saying too bad you aren't Jewish because I think we would match up well.

Basically why limit your range unnecessarily by leaving it out....

First, I'm not Jewish, so not quite sure about this. But are you looking for a Jewish girl or do you not care? A Jewish girl who wants to be with a Jew would probably prefer one "who is serious about it" I would think. Meanwhile, I would think that for non-Jewish girls you being "Jewish and not very serious about it" would probably be neutral at best, and listing being Jewish at all could hurt you with some girls. On the other hand, **** those girls, imo, and you're better off without them.

In the end, I think you should just do what feels right and go with it. I think that's pretty much always the best policy.

Please don't use the "touch base" part, probably better to say "I will get back in touch with you at the end of next week to finalise a plan.

Take care,

XXXXX"

- or something along these lines.

The quick half hug is totally standard. I have no idea where the hate is coming from.

really like El D's line too fwiw

i hate hugs

wtf? He's Dutch. Beer and bitterballen all day every day.

Met girl from Tinder. She was better looking than I thought she'd be.She had a high pitched/little girl voice which was pretty hot, with a sort of Valley girl dialect(which I didn't expect from a black girl). She had a friend with her and she knew a few of the other guys at the bar. I feel too sober to be chatting up random dudes. After we all finish our drinks we decide to move to another bar sans other dudes.

On the way to the second bar she is already leaning into me. I buy a round and start pounding drinks to catch up. They play a bunch of 90s pop songs in the bar(NSYNC Spice Girls Brittney) This bar is more crowded so we're getting closer to talk She is randomly side hugging/kissing my face at points, but when I slide my hand on her ass during one of the hugs she tells me "Take it slow"

We get slice of pizza and walk back to her place(friend splits off) Shes upset with me for not being caught up on Breaking Bad. We kiss and I feel her up a bunch, but any attempts to get top or panties off are met with standard anti-slut excuses. At some point she tells me she's good / wants a relationship

I wind up spooning her and feeling her up. She doesn't mind me going into the pants to grab her ass or any part of the thighs(or jamming the resulting erection into her back) but doesn't let me go around front. I can't sleep too well in spoon position so I wind up trying to escalate it unsuccessfully a few times.

Wake up around 7 and realize this girl peed the bed and lost her phone. Kinda gross but still doesn't deter me from my mission. I suggest we move to my place. She gets dressed and we walk over and get into my bed. More of the same.. don't make it any further."I dont hook up with a guy unless its special" She wants to find out more about me and asks a few interview type questions. I realize because I'm at my place I'm instinctively only wearing boxers for this round of spooning. Shes seen me almost naked and hasnt run away yet, good sign. She calls me nice a few times which scares me.

Can't decide whether I blew it or I'm set to bang her in the near future, or both. Also not sure how to play from here.

Cliffs: Girl pees bed with me in it. I don't have sex with her.

Wow bobbo, next time just stick it in her. They dont want responsiblity for sex anyway. Her wetting the bed cant be a good sign for future sex but obv anything is possible

You sir, are a very dedicated man.

Seems like this thread has taken a turn for the rapey. Except for the bitterballen - they look awesome.

Hunter,

"Please don't use the "touch base" part, probably better to say "I will get back in touch with you at the end of next week to finalise a plan."

Doesn't matter. The point of the message is simply to get her number and move communications off the site. If she's interested, which it seems like she is based on her communications so far, then this type of wording nittery doesn't matter and isn't worth worrying about.

El D,

OK, I get your point in the general gist of what you want to convey but that particular phrase is really not remotely appropriate to use in the UK hence my warning. Assuming Razz is from the UK.

If he is he already knows this anyway I guess.

http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=59219196

Is this 3, maybe even 4 different looking women in 1 profile?

I seem to see this a lot......anyone else?

I think the bed wetting chick balances it out pretty nicely.

@hunter, thats pretty extreme, OKC has dates with the pictures but its obv not gonna help with new profiles or older ones per se.

I think its a combo of not getting what i was referring to exactly (which is my fault) and a kneejerk "the word hug is not alpha" reaction.



Bobbo, if you decided you dont want to see this girl ever again, go ahead and try to have sex all night. But if you dont mind another date or whatever id have slowed down at some point and just left it for next time knowing its gonna happen.

Girls may decide they want sex but theres still a process that some of them have to be taken through.