sublime bringing the heat itt

All,

I have one night stands, I have never had sex on a first date. I am not sure if girls I am into aren`t like that or I am not alpha enough like jmcrazzzy et all and could be getting it in on the first date. Again I'm not even sure I want a girl that would have sex with me on the first date but I'm not sure why or how I'd justify thinking this.

Also by hooking up on first date we mean blow job at least right. Just wanna make sure we are using the same parameters for this term.

"Hey, I had fun the other night. I'm free tuesday/weds night, lets grab a another drink"

bolded reeks of desperation imo

Let's say the guy in the background is someone she's dating. Why bug out?

You just met her yesterday. It's not that surprising for her to be dating other guys before you ran into her.

Yes, same thing with his 'I don't mind you judging me on other stuff, but not on my shorts!', just super passive aggressive diffidence. I'm against wearing shorts on a first date but if you are going to, don't ask for permission, just turn up and rock the look.

Wha? I didn't ask for permission. Did you even read the post?

I wish I could write something like "girls, paying someone to do a photoshoot of you doesn't make you a model." I find it so lame when girls say they 'model' and in reality they have a friend who's a photographer take some really done up pictures for them

his point remains, writing that text makes it seem like that's what you're doing

Yep, I saw that and cringed too but whatever its not like I have never said gay things like that. Yuck I get sick thinking of the sad sad behavior I had with women in my early 20's...lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g3tQaqizh0

Alright I'll take the advice of you guys but I thought sending it was more like "Hey, this is what I am doing"

you were explaining yourself/apologizing. both of which make women, deep down, not want to have sex with you.

+200

And especially to what you said about just letting the girl talk and ramble. You do this a few times, then she realizes she doesn't know **** about you, and then the tables start to turn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URtQAa3Y-ns

as for the actual dates and reading women via body language, this is an excellent book

http://www.amazon.com/The-Definitive.../dp/0553804723

a lot of biological reasons are given as to why we posture the way we do.

heres an article on Clinton who was apparently the mfing master of body language.

http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog...tortion-field/

Not really bugging out, I just thought it was weird. If it was another guy she's dating it's worse for him than it is for me. It just put me in a weird spot. We had a good flow going with our texts and then I had no idea how to respond.

there's nothing LD doesn't know. Get in that ass Larry. Get. In. That. Ass. Spray paint "Larry wuz here"

I'm gonna meet this girl I met on okc at 11pm tonight. Only slot she has available apparently because she has a kid that takes up all her time. We've been talking and texting a ton for the last week. I've veered it into mainly sex convo now. I don't think she is going to put out on the first date. I don't know. Maybe she will. You never know till you know, you know?

I'm curious what strategy do you use to veer it to a sex convo with a chick you've never met? Clever puns?

I'll typically start with a body part of hers that looks good in the pic. Compliment her on that. And go from there. I do that in person too. Let's face it, girls want to be considered pretty and if you can point out what makes them uniquely pretty from the rest of the girls, it goes a long way. When I cold approach a girl off the street, I will open with "I love those earrings" with genuine enthusiasm. Obviously girl has to be wearing a cool pair of earrings for it to work. But they really put a lot of effort and time thinking about what earrings to buy and wear that they appreciate you noticed. This all probably sounds so gay and I will ban myself from this thread for the rest of the night. Nevertheless, it's a great icebreaker.

i would guess the odds of a first night bang are higher in this case than normal. if shes *really* busy with her kid, she prolly doesnt have time to get laid. they just like us in that regard, the longer its been for them the more they want it. i would go aggro and try to get her to your place ASAP.

The sex talk made me think of a funny story. One girl I messaged online was really hot in her pics. We set up a date, I ended up cancelling. But I had a good vibe going through text/convo. So I texted her a few weeks later to get together. She said she was bedridden and just had surgery. I kiddingly said, surgery? Boob job? Well...she actually did have a boob job. Then the sexting took off from there. I get a call randomly from her the following Monday while I'm in the middle of work. She opens with "do you want to have fun tonight?". I don't know this girl at all. I said yes.

Yeah but it will be hard to get her back to my place because she has the looming responsibility of being at her home for the kid. Best chance I have is car or alley sex.

Shes going out at 11pm, I am assuming she has a sitter.

I think you should go for broke and after two drinks say "hey lets have another one at my place" or "lets have alley sex"

You now are required to push sex because this thread is awaiting a kick ass TR after. She has a kid anyway, not like youre gonna want something long term. force is strong this one, get up in dat ass.

Lol. I'm going out to meet her in her jungle about a 25 minute drive from my house. If anything, it's her place, and I'll be waking up to a new family in the morning.

Nevermind. I just realized I could persuade her to come out my way. I'm just gonna tell her to meet a block from house. Then pooka pooka time. I'll post pics instead of tr.