pretty sure he was joking?

I'm with Craig!! That is highly unacceptable behavior and I won't stand for it.

That bit about being congruent sounds important so I will agree with that as well.

I am sorry for ruining this thread everyone.

Well that post I replied to fits in with the rest of this thread unfortunately, but I guess I was supposed to know it wasn't serious? Fine. Jokes on me..

I didn't think he was joking either but between the lawyer talk and Microbob's uh... post, I feel pretty responsible for the recent suckfest.

i don't know if this advice has been spread yet or is obvious to most but i have dabbled in online dating a bit, and i think i have found the most efficient way to get dates

1) get an A++++++ picture. seriously, this is like the one and only thing that matters
2) get a generic spam message. mine is something along the lines of preferring in person meet ups over online chatting and asking for their #
3) spam away. once a girl responds with their number, i text them and ask them when they are free to meet and that's that. no cutesy witticisms necessary.

at first i had what i thought was a pretty good picture and tried to initiate witty conversations, and holy hell was that a lot of effort for nothing. i then switched to spam and got enough responses for the occasional date. kept tweaking my profile around a bunch, finally i uploaded a genuinely great picture and my response rate went thru the roof. i imagine that if i went online and messaged the first 20 acceptable looking girls i saw, i'd be able to set up 5 dates for the weekend.

edit- oh ya this method hardly ever results in flakes. when i tried to individualize my message i repeatedly got flaked. a lot of girls are just trolling for attention, and sometimes trying to halfway game thru the site/text for w/e reason caused things to fizzle out before they even started. it's a weird phenomenon, but the no nonsense approach is def the way to be.

Fact is that dudes that are like 8/10 or better really don't need to worry that much about what they send out. Even guys that are total brutes will meet the kind of girls that could overlook any written substance. I know a ton of "good" girls that if you said you wanted to skip all the online chatting and go straight to phone/texting, they'd consider you 50% likely to be a rapist or too eager. And others who wouldn't think that way, which is why the spam method works. But frankly if you've got a good picture, a lot of the advice in this thread is useful, but not really make or break for getting laid/meeting people. Looks are always going to get you that in the end.

I think a lot of the advice in here is for 5-6-7/10 type guys who need a leg up against the large pool of competition.

But I do completely agree with you on the flakes. Identifying them and cutting them out early is key.

I disagree. I am not below an 8 and I have worse success than... seemingly every other guy on here talking about it. I have good pics and have a way worse response rate using either a decent cut-n-paste or personalized messages.

You're 8/10 looking at you're not getting a good response rate? I need more information:

-what city do you live in?
-how old are you?
-What are you doing in your pictures?

Honestly if you're an 8 (and an 8 is a really good looking man), and you're not bald/fat, then we need to get to the bottom of what you're messing up....

Also what site you using?


Also to frame things a little, this man as he is in this picture is probably about an 8

kpowers - If you are truly an 8 and you are having issues getting dates/girls then you are really doing something wrong. Your looks should be able to make up for a general lack of personality or "game" to a pretty significant extent.

My hunch is that you aren't really an 8.

Loooooooool @ that 8

Gosling might be an 8 on a scale of 1 to 8.2 (Channing tatum would be a 9.3 fwiw)

There's an easy way to prove this... (and I mean that saying this is like asking to be asked to prove it)

So what makes a "good picture"?

I'm going to give this a shot since I'm realizing I'm a perfect candidate for online dating (new to my area, work is an absolute no go dating wise)

I think his point was that someone who would be a 10 in a good pic might only be an 8 in a bad one (wearing glasses, wife beater, and neck beard).

Here are my two main pics, I have other ones of me doing lots of fun stuff.

Age:26
I live about 40 minutes from Providence, RI.
*shrug* maybe I'm not an 8 but I don't think I'm not attractive enough that it's my looks that are a hindrance on my success rate.

im sorry but those pics are not good.

i'm sure you're a very handsome fellow, but the pics are bad. switch them now.

Tsao don't even get me started on bad pictures! Post another picture of your damn watch :P

lmao.

look you are clearly a sexy hunk of a man who needs to be seen shirtless whenever possible, but that first picture, i don't even know. you look like some guy with a farmer's tan who obsesses over his car.

the second picture, you're not facing the camera but your eyes are looking at it, it's like one of those paintings where the eyes follow you.

lold at second line. Someone told me the first picture was good because it makes them want to see the rest of my profile so they click my picture.

That person was a woman, though, and since women are always wrong you must be right.

So then, as kkc asked, what makes a good profile photo?

I'm trying this out again after a failed previous attempt. I have grunched this thread but plan on reading through it tomorrow.

yeah those pictures are awful. the first picture you can't see **** and apparently you aren't intriguing any girls to look thru your profile so maybe you should stop taking advice from that girl

second pic- your beard sucks, you're wearing a white tee with a frayed collar, and you look incredibly boring w/ that facial expression

my first pic that was getting mediocre results was far better than either of those.

you're capable of looking attractive, but you fail with those shots. i think it might be worthwhile for some guys to get professional headshots done if you don't have anything good. and also learn to dress cool.

First pic we can barely see you. We just know you like your car.

Second pic looks like you are trying to show off your recent shave.

I'm sure you have better pictures of yourself.

this pic got me mediocre results:



this one is a ****ing beast at getting dates:



pretty sure the difference in attire makes an impact, other than that judge for yourself.

edit- i also have an additional pic that's a full body shot. only point of that is to show i'm not fat, so i'm not as nitty about that as my cover pic.