If you read a lot of pick up artist material, they tell you when a girl invites you to a bar, that is an indicator of interest (also known as IOI). It means that a girl has indicated she is interested in getting to know you better.

indeed another groudbreaking discovery to the credit of PUAs

lol I missed this when you posted it. Best post of the thread.

I'm chatting with a waitress right now. I spoke to her last night' and she said she played poker. I asked her if she played in the employee event, and we talked about where the best games in town are.

She came up and said hi to me today, I was caught unaware and froze up. Asked her what she was doing for the holidays in desperate attempt to make convo, and she said going home to CT. She's still here, what's my play?

Your play is start talking to other girls that are not waitresses. I'm afraid shes just being nice to you because you're a regular.

Haha yea. Spend so much time in here though.

Amazin, Wtf? Your play is to talk to her again and not freeze up. Stop with the "I'm so shy. What do I do?" excuses. Talk to her. Have fun.

I think I am giving up on online dating for a while.....had another three dates last week; two with girls that contacted me first.

I had a good time on all of them, all with women I would happily see again, and in each case we made not-quite-definite plans to get together again (in one case the girl suggested the date without me asking). And in every case, my texts just get completely ignored a couple days later.

I know this is a pretty standard occurrence....but when it happens 15 times in a row, and I don't really have any way of finding out what I'm doing wrong, it just makes me depressed.

Seems like this could be a fairly regular occurrence with online dating simply because they are constantly meeting more/new people. It's so easy to be like "Well I like this new guy slightly better I think I'm gonna go with him" when there's a never ending supply of dudes sending you messages.

what zbthorton said,they have abundance and you probably suck. Did you make out with any of them? Post details.

I keep a journal where I write every detail so it helps me improve.

It's not even necessarily about you sucking, it can just be about the latest thing being fresh on their mind.

And also women are emotional. In that moment she meant it when she said she wants to see you again. But then she woke up the next day,back to her regular life,problems with the ex,stalkers,her dog died etc. Shes in a different state. Thats why text game is important it recreates the same emotions she had on that first date with you and raises up her state.
You guys can hate on my texts all you want but it does do job. It spikes up her emotions.

lmao

Yes, there is clearly something I am sucking at here.

I really have no problem getting first dates....half of the girls I go out with contact me first. I could easily go on 3 dates/week with very attractive women, mostly doctors and lawyers; usually I only go on 1 or 2/week, because it is draining for me to meet so many new people. I have been on about 20 first dates since I moved to this city in late August.

Most of the girls who contact me first I have no interest in dating, but a few I do, and among those who I go on one date with, I would happily go on a second date with as well. So the asymmetry here clearly tells me I am doing something wrong. I don't imagine most girls message a guy first if they only intend on going on one date if he's interested.

To answer your question, I did not make out with any of the three from last week; I did with the girl I went out with immediately previous to those three. I think I have brought 4 of the ~20 girls I have gone out with back to my place on the first date.

I will post some details from the past four a little later.

Nick, I just remembered. Most of times I got laid on the first date is when I started talking about sex. But you have to be chill,like sex is not a big deal to you,its normal,you do it all the time. This way she knows you won't judge her for having sex with you on the first date. I actually tell them "I'm not judging you".

Try this on your next date: tell her you played poker for a living,she'll say something stupid like "wow really is it hard,are you good etc?". You say poker is alot like sex,everybody thinks they are good at it but most of them suck. Boooom now you can talk about sex and its smooth as ****.

Having sex on the first date is certainly nice. But it's not really my goal. I'd rather not have sex on the first date and have the girl want to go out again than have sex on the first date and then have the girl ignore me. And so far, how far we go on the first date seems to have little correlation with whether the girls wants to go again or not.

If you let them spend the night after you had sex on the first date she will ignore you most of the time. You have to kick them out like 30 min after you're done. "sorry I have to work in the morning" "I won't get any sleep if you stay here" etc
She'll get pissed,as long as you stay unreactive its all good she'll come back,especially if you ****ed her really good (choking,hair pulling,slapping etc)

What's the reasoning behind this?

Not really sure. Most guys get needy after sex plus the give out that vibe like they accomplished something,like a trophy and the girl senses that right away,its a big turnoff for them. I would say this works because it creates drama and women are addicted to drama.

Not really worried about this....I only had sex on the first date twice since I moved....both were very shortly after I moved here, and both I went out with a second time.

Amazing you need to write this in big letters and post it somewhere you can read it 50 times a day:


"Women arouse me. I stare at a woman and I get aroused. I want to **** her. I see her ass and I want to squeeze it. I want to kiss her nipples, fingering her until shes wet, and then **** her with my ERECTION. I AM A MAN AND I WANT TO ****. This is my role as a man, to dominate her.

I make no excuse for my sexual nature. I love that she turns me on. I know that’s what we both want."

I love it.

New Years is coming up to.
Resolutions.

Dominate in poker.
Dominate in baseball.
Dominate the dating game.

Dominate, dominate, dominate.

Another thing you should do: go out during the day,the mall,grocery store etc and get comfortable talking to strangers. Man,women,60yrs old or 20 doesn't matter stay away from 5yrs old obviously lmao. Ask for directions,ask for the time make small talk. Don't think about getting phone numbers just talk. Get out of your comfort zone.

And when you talk to attractive girls I strongly suggest not using the 1-10 rating system. Use 1 for I would ****, 0 I would not. You talk to a 9 the same way you talk to a 6. They are just girls and you want to **** both.

BL,

This is absurd: "If you let them spend the night after you had sex on the first date she will ignore you most of the time."

As much as I loathe a lot of BL's PUA pickup-lines/messages suggestions, he's absolutely right on so many levels about getting comfortable talking to people, bringing up sex as not a big deal, etc.