Pleasure - Have you ever had intercourse with a female?

Although it's not strictly for dating, there is helpful advice here.

Others can weigh in as to its truth / utility.

gl.

she just texted me, which is rare cuz she msgs me on snapchat

just spoke with my fwb and its just bringing up emotions I didnt wanna bring back(she mentioned him when we first met because thats why she was basically "looking" for a new one i gathered, she didnt want to talk about it becuase I coudl clearly tell it hurt her)



how would you guys have responded?

I went back and forth and talked about the situation all beta like, asked her twice what I could do to make her get out of her feelings



edit update: after about 12 texts total between us each she texts
playing music atm, still down to hang

I said
Lets hang out at my house at 3 and go from there, deal?

She texts
ok

I say
I ll shoot you my address when I head home, I promise i ll give better directions this time ( first tiem we met she couldn't find my work and I was bad at giving directions)




i dont know if she ll flake or what but how shoudl I have proceeded? whats my play? does she want me to bang her brains out or what?

Pleasure - you didn’t answer my question but if she’s down to hang you have a shot. Find a way to the couch, touch her leg when you talk to her, don’t be a p***y and make a move and start making out and then bang her. The emotional relationship talk will steer you towards friend zone which is where you likely are but this is your last chance to go the other direction to pound town.

thank you, that sounds good but my house is more like a frat house where I live in my room that doesn't have a couch and the living room doesn't have a TV

last night our txt convos were kinda sexual talking about napping next to me and whatnot. Now I am lost because have no idea what to do. maybe she told me this recent stuff to stray from the banging and more toward friendly thing? who knows? prolly ask her if she wants to go eat and if she says no i ll invite her into my house and god no clue what then since nothing to lay/sit on but my bed or my gaming chair lol

maybe shell flake again, whatever, i ll update whatever happens, just over thinking how to proceed but you made a good point

take it or leave it for what its worth but yes multiple times.

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update: since **** it why not how worse can I get, BTW I still think she flakes for some reason.

she texts me up 30misn after she says K and says

She:
fyi i dont feel like shaving (i talked about not liking hair )

me
hahaha thats totally fine
still would :tongue (tongue emoji


her
gross dont. hahaha i pooped today lol
i purposely ruined that moment.


me
LOL butt stuff at first is scary
Have an open mind and be open to negotiations (was talking about goign down on her but I whiffed and she proly though it meant something else)


her
it's painful
nope.


me
butt stuff isnt my forte, never actually done that before.
just seems meh thast just me


her
lol
good
mine either

me
while youre laying ground rules, anythign else a nono?


her
sucking dick hahaha its lame jsing


me
thats fine, im not expecting you to(really dont care tbh)


her
ys you are
I know men lol


me
no i dont want you to
but if i can make a request...

her
lool ok sure
ok


me
how do you feel about sitting on my face?


her
too soon


me
unlcuky


her
sorry. lol


me
not even open to negotiations, super sadd
anyways am I picking you up or you driving to me


her
lol i ll drive to you
even though my car is in bad shape...


me
lol bad shape?
guess i ll se it



she then says her car an whats wrong, tells me she gonna nap and put her kids away , i said k, i ll text you when im home




thats it, still expect her to flake, i know these exchanges all sounds awful, and it is, my personality while its cringe its not as cringe as it sounds once you see me interact and whatnot i swear.

at this point I shouldn't be asking for line checks since there shouldnt be much convo.

if she flakes I actually understand

Move on from that. She texts like she's 14 and she's not down.

Pass.

dude, wtf is wrong with you. don't talk about going down on a girl you've never seen naked in person

Dude, you've already communicated too much.

Shut it down.

You ask for advice but aren't following it.

That's borderline troll behavior.

That whole thing was eesh.

She is for sure attention whoring

Saying no bjs is ok and then offering to eat her out is really pathetic dude.

Still waiting on pics

Saying no bjs and then when he says he doesn't like it, wouldn't let her do it is pretty strange. Even she sees through it. Seems like he goes way out of his way to be agreeable - although he does admit to be very beta.

She might like you pleasure, but she doesn't respect you. Use this as a learning experience for someone worth your time.

Yikes boys, im officially done and so will my updates


she came over, she sat on my bed, we talked for about 45mins before anything escalated or anything, after an eternity, while she was talking I asked her to come cuddle with me while we talk. she said can you put on netflix, I put the office season 4 epsidoe 3 dinner party, my favorite episode in the series, super awkward and super funny(wonder why i like it..) as we cuddled I wrapped my hand around her waist and slowly caressed her arm and gently rubbed my hand around her stomahce and leg, her phone blew up and was talking about her friend was depressed or something and she had to go see her but felt lazy and didnt want to,

I had to do something so i said some **** that i thought would open her up more and it did, then I told her to face me, I went in for the kiss she kinda denied me but I kissed her cheek and made my way to her lips for a peck, we kissed for a little then seh kept saying i told her I would behave and all this ****, back to cuddle then 5 mins later I say some **** tell her to face me laying up which she agreed and then I just kissed her cheek, wouldn't let me kiss her lips a lot, i moved down to her neck

I should have spent way more ****ing time on her neck, i can tell she was super receptive of that and I ****ing should have sat on that

then I made my way down her chest, and then down her stomachache she again told me i wasnt behaving. i said youre right sorry and then I made my way back up to her face and again back down hopeing this would open her up more and more.

she makes comment about needing to see her friend but doesn't want to blah blah

about 5mins later im kissing her slowly down the tummy and im trying to go down on her, only thing I want to do really. she stops me and again tells me "you said you were shy" which I am and I tell ehr so then I just go back down to where I left off and kissing her inner thigh while she wears her leggings, im kissing gently slowly moving toward her and then abruptly says she has to go see her friend.

as she gets her coat she keeps saying how sorry she is and not to be mad at her blah blah her friend something blah and asks if im mad at her and im like wtf no dont be sorry, like its cool whatever.

as she leaves to get her tea drink i give her a hug and say can I get another kiss at least she says about how she doesn't like kissing but still a quick peck and says bye and that I should msg her later and she will send a snap of her and her friend together.


things I did wrong, A LOT, but **** me I should have just started super slow when kissing initiated and spend like major chunk of time around her neck region as she enjoyed that. I feel near the end I was way to unorganized and should have been more focused.

there were more details and buts a **** ton and its incoherent enough. as I write this, I state it again, I blew it. anyone else could have prolly kept her in my room and still be at it, but instead I was to hasty about going down on her and just made her want to leave.


I do not think she will talk to me again or really hang out like this again. bummer but i need to learn.



plenty of times she was saying about how shes not a good kisser, her tummy isnt good blah blah super annoying though

lets just pretend shes a 3, she deptes her snap pics asap too. the SFW and NSFW are all done though snapchat.



I am not a big BJ guy but yea wtf am I talking about going down on her before anything happens, thats just awful unless im stating it in a pretty confident situation and frame but neither has ever been established.



re, thank you foatie. you are, as usual and like most of you, right

I know I said no more updates but she just called me 3 mins ago while I was writing up my post.

She called me about 10 mins after she left.


She basically said she apologizes for leaving so abruptly and she feels really bad about her leaving me since i was prolly really horny and her friend feels bad too?? idk and she would send a snap of them together for proof and something else she said idk

you guys will love this.......
I just told her not to worry about it and maybe I went to fast and wasn't on good behavior as I promised. I said im not mad and its totally fine, we ll catch up another time, no need for snap. she said to msg her later. I said I would later.




edit* forgot to mention this above, soo I snap her my welchs strawberry fruit snacks from time to time. and as she was leaving I tell her to take one as if its a goodie bag since theyre really good and she needs to try them. She took them, forgot what she said but thats when I hugged her and quick kiss. pretty sure this edit confirms im not a troll although to save face, i feel like I should be pretending I am.

How old are you?

I’m kinda skimming through your posts, partly because idgaf and partly because reading them is omg making my brain hurt. I know I’m bad at the game, but I’m not sure you’re even on the right planet let alone on the active roster for this sht...

My guess is 15 years old, send me this girls number and let me bang her for you. I will even let you watch

Dude, please stop trying to get with her.

Now its definitely sounds like shes not interested.

That almost felt rapey. I know you didn't mean it to be, but by your description she's not interested, and so neither should you.

Or at the very least she's leading you on, just for attention.

You realize they sound about the same age?

So be careful there R. Kelly

yeah guys, i ll stop. this is the last you ll hear from me with this