jmakin,

This was actually pretty solid advice.

As for how things have changed - I'm not sure about Bumble (it's terrible for a trans woman to have to make the first move), but at least for the other aps, I imagine women are getting wise to the swipe right on everyone strategy, and so are becoming very bland in their opening lines to their matches, waiting for the guy to make his mind up about whether its a serious swipe right.

You have a lot to add to this thread but your hate toward MLYT is kind of weird.

I didn't mind Mlylt's response but I am totally clueless to online dating.

For the record, "Would have been better hanging out with a cute girl like you, what are you doing next weekend" is not only cringe/cheesy, but also way too forward.

I’m not gonna lie I’m pretty interested to see if those Josie picture makeover turns into tangible results for our man Rob

I think rob admitting the dog is borrowed is a wise play

We need to know who likes him and who is showing up to pet the puppy

FYP

Hey Nat,

I’m very hopeful and interested as well.

Fingers crossed,

Josie

Because you likely want to stick your prick in her babymaker and she wants to make sure you’re not a boring or annoying or creepy person to interact with.

GTFO with the millennial entitlement to the dating or courting process being fair.

I mean you bang her brother. You should just declare victory and never ever reply outside of that.

That’s what I would do if I was banging someone’s sister that I didn’t get along with

I went to my first cardroom last night. First time since my transition. I gotta say I was nervous. The cardroom is in cowboy country - not particularly liberal. And people can be *******s at the table. But it turned out I had no reason to be nervous. I think the idea that a woman might be trans is so far off the players' radar that I was passing with no problem.

I'm not sure if they played me different - maybe I had to steal less and value bet more? What I did notice, is that every guy that sat down next to me had to make some kind of comment as he sat down. I had a couple of racks of chips and it was often something along the lines of "You're doing well", but with a kind of patronizing tone, as though it was a surprise that a woman would be doing well.

Anyway, had a fun time watching the warriors game and the pats game and drinking tequila .

If i was interested solely in that i’d just go to the massage parlor - my experience with women in online dating lately is not good. It is not entitlement to expect to be treated with the same respect I show others.

Right and all of my prior experience has been on tinder, where i can dictate the opening convo - fun fact though, every girl I’ve ended up with has started with the blandest possible opener. One was literally just “hi.” I tend to think they don’t really matter that much and girls are basically doing the swipe right on everyone strategy now too. But this was 3-4 years ago and my strategy back then was to just get massive numbers and law of averages would state i’d eventually get lucky. That doesnt really work well on bumble.

I’ve had two ghosted date setups on bumble, and one failure of a date where the girl was basically polite but afterwards gave me a simple “sorry, not interested.” I respect that approach a lot.

I could try a little harder but I’m still figuring it out.

Jmakin,

1. False on the massage parlor because you don’t get to penetrate at those places (or do you???)

2. This isn’t a like for like exchange. You should expect to get ghosted with a “watching the dodgers game, having a few, what r u doing?” Type messages. I wouldn’t respond beyond “oh cool, sounds chill” to a good friend who gave a reply like that to a “hey, what are you doing tonight?” Text. So how could one expect a random women to find that reply interesting or worth following up with unless she likes baseball, the dodgers or General drinking?

You’re on a poker forum, think past what you’re saying to what her likely responses to that would be and consider if what you’re saying is harpooning the conversation (it is)

Literally two dates made actual plans to hang out on x day at this time, then disappeared.

I do believe that Jmakin as the initiators is probably a lady killer vs being prompted to react to a message he finds dumb or difficult to reply to because it’s a dead end starter

It isn't bad at all. Asking for a date on a dating site isn't too forward. It is a bit cheesy, I guess.

josie, can i get the bra pic please? if you've got a pic of the see thru lying around that will do also. ty

Eh, it feels kinda entitled to expect anything whatsoever from an avatar on an app, TBH.

I lolled.

Thread has been pretty badly destroyed by all the dudes who have this vendetta against MLYLT. Just get each other banned or shut the **** up. Whatever bad posts she may or may not be making are absolutely nothing in comparison to how badly you're ****ing up the thread with constant bickering about her.

(Reading last few pages)

Jo,

Based on your photo that I saw, I doubt they thought “trans” in the poker, just “oooo pretty woman”. I know u didn’t show your face but photo didn’t say “man in a dress” to me at all...in fact the opposite.

Absolutely value bet more...they’re a calling so make them pay if you believe you’re ahead.

Yes, there’s absolutely a patronizing, condescending undertone. 3 weeks ago a guy threw away a flopped middle set (showed) because he didn’t wanna take my chips after he’d announced “this is your hand sweetie.” I was shocked.

Ill have guys offer to carry my chips to the cage for me if I’ve had a good night and have a few racks. Yeah no...I can manage.

Kind of victim blaming here tbh - any thread she participates in will undoubtedly revolve around her, or be attempted to. I will put her on ignore for my participation in this thread.

When I was putting massive amounts of volume swiping on tinder, I would ask girls that I clicked with what attracted them to me about their interaction with me, and nearly unanimously the answer was "You just seem like a normal, nice guy, which is rare around here, most guys on here are unbearably obnoxious, creepy, or weird."

So maybe that's changed and all the guys figured out how to play it smoother on bumble. Idk. It is a little frustrating to me why I can't figure it out so far, but I think a little bit is a lack of WIM, so I'll try some of my old openers and see how they go.

So what are you interested in? It always helps to have a goal.

Sex w many different women?
Someone to talk to?
Casual relationship w 1 or 2 women?
Looking for a life partner?
Looking for long term relationship?
Marriage?

Deep down what are you really looking for? You don’t have to answer here but it’s a good question to ask yourself.