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05-19-2017 , 03:17 PM
Guys,

lol at this dude banging anyone's girlfriend, come on now.
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05-19-2017 , 03:29 PM
So I feel like people who have banged someone's girlfriend would be judged awfully here than lol
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05-19-2017 , 04:57 PM
Yeah, I'm getting that feeling too.
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05-19-2017 , 06:09 PM
Well how about someone's wife
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05-19-2017 , 06:22 PM
I'd be really surprised if most of the online dating wasn't with people who are still exploring their options while in a relationship.

I know some sites even have that as a category,(married and looking)
And ofc the success of sites like Ashley Madison lends even more credence to the theory.

So even the most moral of us may have committed adultery.

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05-19-2017 , 08:18 PM
Pretty sure Ashley Madison was pretty much shown that there are a ton of men interested in cheating even on a website but the number of women thinking of doing the same thing is pretty small.
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05-19-2017 , 08:53 PM
Actually research has shown for a while now that the gap between male and female infidelity is fairly small, like single digit percentages. Say men at 50%, women at 45% or in that ballpark.

Humans aren't really a naturally monogamous species, that's a more recent (from an evolutionary perspective) and more culturally driven phenomenon rather than our default biological imperative. Cheating is extraordinarily common in long term relationships.
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05-19-2017 , 08:58 PM
I'm not shocked that cheating is prevalent. I think Ashley Madison isn't a common product used by women to do it. For women, I believe it's much easier to cheat that they don't need a website to do it.
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05-19-2017 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
Actually research has shown for a while now that the gap between male and female infidelity is fairly small, like single digit percentages. Say men at 50%, women at 45% or in that ballpark.

Humans aren't really a naturally monogamous species, that's a more recent (from an evolutionary perspective) and more culturally driven phenomenon rather than our default biological imperative. Cheating is extraordinarily common in long term relationships.
That new percentage seems closer to reality to me.
I have personally dealt with too many instances of infidelity,a great many of my relationships started with cheating,either me or the woman I "dated"

What is scary to me is not only the actual cheating,but finding even the most stable looking relationship has one or both partners always looking for a better deal.

This was of course with younger associates and friends,the couples together for years now are not so inclined,but they may have entertained those thoughts or acted on them and never got caught.




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05-20-2017 , 12:11 AM
Morality aside, there's just a 100% chance that this guy does not have nearly the game needed to pull off this maneuver without creeping her out. Anyone smooth enough to transition from getting a girl's business card to getting her to cheat on her boyfriend doesn't need to come to this thread to figure out how to do it and it's just going to result in an eye roll and an ignored text.
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05-20-2017 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
Actually research has shown for a while now that the gap between male and female infidelity is fairly small, like single digit percentages. Say men at 50%, women at 45% or in that ballpark.
This seems too small. Cba to do any extensive research, but the highest cited article on WoS suggests men are 79% more likely to cheat on their partner than women, although I guess the gap is going to close if we're looking at more casual relationships, which I think you can argue is not really infidelity.

Somewhat interestingly, when they controlled for interest in sex and permissiveness of sexual values, the gender difference virtually disappeared.

Sexual Infidelity Among Married and Cohabiting Americans
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05-20-2017 , 07:04 AM
I'm ****ing a guy's girlfriend, but it's ok b/c he's a cuck and knows about it!

Only problem is now she's asking again if I'm interested in doing something with her and her boyfriend. At the beginning she'd proposed humiliating him or something like that and I didn't like the idea. Now she's proposing a straight MFM with no bi-stuff, she's just interested in pleasing 2 guys at once. I doubt I'll go through with it and it's getting a bit annoying b/c this is the third time she's brought it up.

I'm surprised she hasn't just jumped back online to find some bi-dude or even some straight dude willing to put up with the distraction to bang her b/c she's super hot (maybe she has, but in any case she still sees me regularly). Other than the occasional nagging about a threesome, it's a super awesome arrangement for me. Very attractive and pretty good in bed 25 year old comes over to my place once a week, we have sex a couple times, she leaves. I put in little effort and little messaging in between other than some sexting and setting up plans.
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05-20-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dudd
Morality aside, there's just a 100% chance that this guy does not have nearly the game needed to pull off this maneuver without creeping her out. Anyone smooth enough to transition from getting a girl's business card to getting her to cheat on her boyfriend doesn't need to come to this thread to figure out how to do it and it's just going to result in an eye roll and an ignored text.
Yea, cuz I am dumb enough to show my hand in the absolute first text to get that eye roll and ignored text. You must have really thought I was in 9th grade, because I want to bang some guys gf? Or I posted here about it somehow makes me that dumb? You don't read hands very well..

I am actually polyamorous. Every girl I sleep with knows I have a gf, and I will not be a one girl guy ever. I still don't have problems getting laid even with disclosure, which is a lot harder than one may think, because a lot of women want the monogamous situation.
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05-20-2017 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
I'm ****ing a guy's girlfriend, but it's ok b/c he's a cuck and knows about it!

Only problem is now she's asking again if I'm interested in doing something with her and her boyfriend. At the beginning she'd proposed humiliating him or something like that and I didn't like the idea. Now she's proposing a straight MFM with no bi-stuff, she's just interested in pleasing 2 guys at once. I doubt I'll go through with it and it's getting a bit annoying b/c this is the third time she's brought it up.

I'm surprised she hasn't just jumped back online to find some bi-dude or even some straight dude willing to put up with the distraction to bang her b/c she's super hot (maybe she has, but in any case she still sees me regularly). Other than the occasional nagging about a threesome, it's a super awesome arrangement for me. Very attractive and pretty good in bed 25 year old comes over to my place once a week, we have sex a couple times, she leaves. I put in little effort and little messaging in between other than some sexting and setting up plans.
Me being polyamorous, I can relate. You got a good situation!
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05-20-2017 , 09:52 AM
And as far as me banging someone's girlfriend, to all the naysayers that quickly bashed me, who the hell are we to judge if that is bad/good/indifferent? To each their own right?

Thanks to the posters that brought up the issue of infidelity and all of that.

The fact is, she is completely capable of blowing me off. If she is completely into her bf, and doesn't cheat, nothing will happen.

If she wants to cheat, that is on her. Not me. Am I supposed to just take her having a bf as the end game? What if she is a swinger or polyamorous or in an open relationship? Or hell, she may want something on the side? We do not know... Or hell, the idea of an open relationship or polyamory may sound attractive to her. I know once I figured out how polyamory is kinda like having your cake and eating it, I realized it was for me. I cannot be monogamous. Some people (approximately 25 to 30 percent) of marriages end up being happy, fulfilling relationships.

Half of all marriages end in divorce. Of the rest remaining, probably half of those work because someone is cheating.

The world exists WAY past monogamy.
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05-20-2017 , 10:47 AM
Good for you, why'd you even post in this thread if it'll be such a cinch? Subtlety bragging?
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05-20-2017 , 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by isteal
Me being polyamorous, I can relate. You got a good situation!
Yes, it's a great situation, but I fear she's more interested in the threesome/cuckolding aspect than finding side action. I think maybe she's been angling to get me more comfortable until I eventually accept one of her proposals, although we've been meeting regularly for about 4 months, so that'd be a lot of work on her end. Even if I accepted this proposal, I think in her mind it would just be to get me used and comfortable to the idea of being with her and her bf at the same time, and then she'd bring up the cuck/humiliation idea again.

I will likely turn her down again, but I think this might be the last straw for her and she'll end it. I think that's she inexperienced with sex and knowing her own body and needs to create wild scenarios in order to get excited enough to orgasm. Man, I miss my ~40 year old FWBs who could easily have exorcism-style orgasms on command where they'd flail about aimlessly for a minute, but this 25-year old girl is so hot, and for me, attraction is a huge deal. I guess it's a tradeoff.
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05-20-2017 , 11:51 AM
Will the guy going out of his way to have a girl cheat please post pictures of his face after the boyfriend finds out ?
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05-20-2017 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
Yes, it's a great situation, but I fear she's more interested in the threesome/cuckolding aspect than finding side action. I think maybe she's been angling to get me more comfortable until I eventually accept one of her proposals, although we've been meeting regularly for about 4 months, so that'd be a lot of work on her end. Even if I accepted this proposal, I think in her mind it would just be to get me used and comfortable to the idea of being with her and her bf at the same time, and then she'd bring up the cuck/humiliation idea again.

I will likely turn her down again, but I think this might be the last straw for her and she'll end it. I think that's she inexperienced with sex and knowing her own body and needs to create wild scenarios in order to get excited enough to orgasm. Man, I miss my ~40 year old FWBs who could easily have exorcism-style orgasms on command where they'd flail about aimlessly for a minute, but this 25-year old girl is so hot, and for me, attraction is a huge deal. I guess it's a tradeoff.
Ride the train as long as you are comfortable with it.
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05-20-2017 , 12:11 PM
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Good for you, why'd you even post in this thread if it'll be such a cinch? Subtlety bragging?
Where did I say it would be a cinch?

My earlier post about poly/open relationships/cheating just was meant to open eyes to all the haters who think the outcome is certainly that I would end up with a busted up face. There is another big world past monogamous thinking. But I never inclined my certain situation was a cinch.

You know what, if I was in an "exclusive" situation and my gf cheated on me, it certainly would not be the guy I would be pissed at. Why does it always have to be about beating the others guys ass. The gf would clearly be the responsible party. She signed up for a relationship, not the guy...But if a guy really thinks beating the other guys ass is going to solve the issue that your gf cheated on you, I would suggest taking a look at the gf.
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05-20-2017 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93
I'm ****ing a guy's girlfriend, but it's ok b/c he's a cuck and knows about it!

Only problem is now she's asking again if I'm interested in doing something with her and her boyfriend. At the beginning she'd proposed humiliating him or something like that and I didn't like the idea. Now she's proposing a straight MFM with no bi-stuff, she's just interested in pleasing 2 guys at once. I doubt I'll go through with it and it's getting a bit annoying b/c this is the third time she's brought it up.

I'm surprised she hasn't just jumped back online to find some bi-dude or even some straight dude willing to put up with the distraction to bang her b/c she's super hot (maybe she has, but in any case she still sees me regularly). Other than the occasional nagging about a threesome, it's a super awesome arrangement for me. Very attractive and pretty good in bed 25 year old comes over to my place once a week, we have sex a couple times, she leaves. I put in little effort and little messaging in between other than some sexting and setting up plans.
You haven't done any of the cuck stuff at all, like no pictures with her or whatever, have never met the guy? You wouldn't want to just have sex in front of him?

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Where did I say it would be a cinch?

My earlier post about poly/open relationships/cheating just was meant to open eyes to all the haters who think the outcome is certainly that I would end up with a busted up face. There is another big world past monogamous thinking. But I never inclined my certain situation was a cinch.

You know what, if I was in an "exclusive" situation and my gf cheated on me, it certainly would not be the guy I would be pissed at. Why does it always have to be about beating the others guys ass. The gf would clearly be the responsible party. She signed up for a relationship, not the guy...But if a guy really thinks beating the other guys ass is going to solve the issue that your gf cheated on you, I would suggest taking a look at the gf.
You're right with what you say about relationships etc., but in these particular circumstances with the way you got her number I'd drop it.
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05-20-2017 , 03:50 PM
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You're right with what you say about relationships etc., but in these particular circumstances with the way you got her number I'd drop it.
Yea, that is what I am thinking.
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05-20-2017 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fossilkid93

I will likely turn her down again, but I think this might be the last straw for her and she'll end it. I think that's she inexperienced with sex and knowing her own body and needs to create wild scenarios in order to get excited enough to orgasm. Man, I miss my ~40 year old FWBs who could easily have exorcism-style orgasms on command where they'd flail about aimlessly for a minute, but this 25-year old girl is so hot, and for me, attraction is a huge deal. I guess it's a tradeoff.
I was going to say the same thing,I think if you don't acquiesce,she's going to find someone who will,and hot girls don't have to look too hard.

Maybe it's a long con,maybe her boyfriend knows about you,thinks you're cute and this all has been his plan to turn you into his plaything.
He gets you to bang his girlfriend,you do whatever she says,you end up in bed with them both,and next thing you know....

But really,just enjoy what you had,and be glad it didn't get messy.



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05-20-2017 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Baltimore Jones
You haven't done any of the cuck stuff at all, like no pictures with her or whatever, have never met the guy? You wouldn't want to just have sex in front of him?
No pics with her and I've never met him. Only thing out of the ordinary was we fooled around on a French cam site for an hour. It was just a one off thing that didn't do much for me, but she really liked the exhibitionist aspect.

I wouldn't be totally opposed to just ****ing in front of her bf, but there's probably <5% chance that she'd let that be the extent of it. Eventually she'd try to get him involved either in a conventional MFM or by trying to cuck/humiliate him, which doesn't really interest me, and I don't know him any way. At the start she talked about wanting me to humiliate him by ****ing him or making him give me head, but I'm not interested in that at all and she dropped it pretty quickly.

She mentioned recently that she dominates him a lot, and sometimes pegs him, and it didn't sound like they have conventional sex very often. So I'm happy to be her outlet for conventional sex when she's interested, but it's possible vanilla sex doesn't do much for her and she'll constantly want to spice things up somehow.

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I was going to say the same thing,I think if you don't acquiesce,she's going to find someone who will,and hot girls don't have to look too hard.

Maybe it's a long con,maybe her boyfriend knows about you,thinks you're cute and this all has been his plan to turn you into his plaything.
He gets you to bang his girlfriend,you do whatever she says,you end up in bed with them both,and next thing you know....

But really,just enjoy what you had,and be glad it didn't get messy.
Yah, I think there's a decent chance it could be over soon, but OTOH, it's been 4 months and she still seemingly hasn't found a guy for her request.

Could be a long con, but I think maybe she would have brought it up sooner than 4 months later if that was the plan.

Yah, I guess there was a decent chance it could have gotten ugly, which I've managed to avoid, and NSA sex with a smoking 25 year old is always a nice plus for a 33 year old, so if it's over, c'est la vie, but I'm not interested in the bi/cuck stuff so I don't think it'd be smart to agree to anything involving the bf at all.

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05-20-2017 , 04:20 PM
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Yea, that is what I am thinking.
While I agree about not totally blaming the guy your girlfriend cheats with, to blame her primarily,he still has culpability.

Maybe he actually has no idea she's in a relationship,did he even try to find out?

Maybe he knows,and don't care,he still is helping her deceive someone.

Or he could find out and still do it anyway,cause if a ho gonna go...

So most times,there is some blame on him.

And I'm not too sold on poly relationships,I think they just haven't found someone they want to stay with,but they like who they're with for the time being.
(maybe that's all relationships?)


But if it's working for you,I'm not going to judge you too harshly.


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