I miss the TRs ITT. Promise you guys I'll deliver some good ones in the new year, hopefully Bobbo and others follow suit.

I think you should attempt to reschedule here with a less needy sounding tone. You shouldnt put the onus on a girl to reschedule if she doesnt initially try to upon cancelling plans. Shes already shown a lack of interest/commitment in her actions.

If its some pride thing that wont allow you to just try again then online dating isnt for you. I imagine you dont register as a real person until you actually meet most women

You blew the little chance you had by being butthurt and giving her the TOMORROW OR ELSE ultimatum.

Who knows why she flaked on the first meetup? Maybe she actually got caught up at work and genuinely wanted to meet the next day and then was turned off by your response. Maybe she was already on the fence and decided to **** test you and you failed miserably.

As doorbread pointed out, if flaking once is enough to make you butthurt, online dating isn't for you.

I don't understand why you wouldn't send some version of

- oh no hope dog is OK
- have a good holiday

Nothing that's butthurt.
Nothing begging her to get back in touch.
Nothing implying you'll get in touch with her.

Implies you don't expect to hear from her until post holidays and that you're busy.
Implies you're hopeful her dog is OK.

Seems very low cost. Seems you had interest in the girl. What if her dog is legit sick and it wasn't just an excuse. Seems somewhat likely that she was going to bring you fresh cookies...

It bears repeating: this was an awful line. Way too aggro/pushy.

As an aside, why hot chocolate? You two are adults, get a cocktail. Unless you are an alcoholic, that's what you do. Asking someone out for hot cocoa sounds suuuuuper lame. Something only Meg Ryan would appreciate, in her movies, in the '90s. Women generally don't want cute **** like hot cocoa and then hitting the pet store that's holding an adoption so you two can look at puppies and lame **** like that.

Eh, I think we're jumping to conclusions a bit here, surprised everyone agrees with your immediate assessment of her character based on her dog eating **** he isn't supposed to. Dogs can be troublemakers.

Except for the last line, this is all correct.

Edit: Dog maaaaay have been sick, but cookies weren't for you.

A "hot chocolate tour" is an ok second date this time of year if you need ideas. Doesn't have to be fancy, can be just 1-2 destinations, play it by ear kinda thing

aura,

2 disagreements:

1. One or both could be Mormons! That's a good reason for hot chocolate. Or it could be a day-date. Or they could be meeting at a Christmas market. Or there's an awesome place for hot chocolate. There's good reasons for hot chocolate date.

2. I think the chances someone makes a big (3lb of dough!) batch of cookies and then goes on a date within the hour but doesn't take at least a couple cookies are <50%.

I had to make a big batch of cookies for a party the next day, told my date about it pre-1st date, I joked about bringing her a few, she seemed into it, then she visibly cringed super-hard when I actually brought some for her. #betabaking

I think ya'll are way off on this hot cocoa thing. It's lame and I'm sticking to it. If she is in fact a Mormon, she wouldn't have blown him off, they're too nice. A better date for a Mormon (don't know why you'd be wanting to date one unless you're one too) would be a hike or bike trail, and if he were in fact a Mormon, he'd know that.

Re: point 2 cit, she might've left the dough out never intending to cook it all. Either way, the guy who wants to possibly make a skin suit out of her won't be getting a taste.

Even that doesn't stop wu, ATF, or me.

have you ever had really good hot cocoa aura? better aphrodisiac than a cocktail

There's a great hot chocolate joint I take some dates that don't drink or can only do day dates to in-town with the same last name as me - batting .285 as far as it leading to a good date/2nd dates

Comparatively, what settings or ball parks do you have higher averages in?

When the air is thin the ball travels further.

Thread is now big enough that I unintentionally notice when there have been deleted posts. Congrats OP (amazin), I guess

I want to get professions pictures done for tinder; what kinds of backgrounds or settings would I use

My advice is don't.

It's bad if it looks like you had professional pictures done for tinder. If you have professional pictures from events where there was a photographer that's fine. So if you're gonna do it, make it look like you have professional pictures for other reasons.

Quirky dive bars - combination of it not being loud or crowded, I'm socially and physically comfortable, and just doesn't feel like as much pressure.

Me: Hi. Are you Eastern European?
Her: Yes. Why?
Me: You look it. Lithuanian? (I just guessed)
Her: Yes I am Lithuanian. How do you know?
Me: ????

I think it's reasonably easy spot Eastern European girls from their profile pictures.

Girls with kids are fairly easy to spot too.

Standard. Lol

"Lucky guess! I (traveled to Lithuania once / want to go to Lithuania --obviously 1st option is way better if true)... do you make it back often?"

This is kinda a weird one, probably a waste of time:

I had matched with a Russian girl who considers herself French b/c she's now lived here in Lyon for 11 years. We chatted for about 5 days, maybe 6 messages each. She was just engaging enough, but didn't seem overly interested so I just said "F it" and threw up a Hail Mary invite for drinks and to my surprise she agreed.

Drinks turned into just a tea as she was bit sick and didn't want to drink. So we had tea and chatted for about 90 minutes and the conversation flowed well (although I never know for sure in French, b/c I'm still not fluent so maybe it's dull for fluent speakers), I enjoyed it, and I think she did too, but not much escalation and no kiss. She ended the date with a "let's keep in touch, ok?". Waited a day and texted that I had a great time, she immediately replied with the same. A couple days later I told her I visited a Matisse exhibit here and gave her my impressions (she had mentioned going there and wanting to hear my thoughts), but then I didn't hear from her for 2 weeks.

Today I decided to throw out a "Happy New Year, let me know if you want to meet up in 2017" type text and to my surprise she responds immediately. I'd been having issues with my texts about 2-3 weeks ago with friends confirming 2 that showed up as sent on my phone, but they never received. So I guess there's a chance she never got my Matisse text and was waiting for me to re-engage. Anyway, not really expecting much, but I guess I'll ask her out for drinks next week and see what happens. Maybe Russians are just really weird when it comes to dating.

I've been having way more success with a site called AdopteUnMec (AdopteAGuy). Basically women use it for free, guys have to pay 30E per month. Guys can only view profiles or send winks unless a woman specifically gives them the greenlight to message them, but this format seems to work extremely well as I guess it eliminates a lot of the BS from online dating. In only a couple weeks I've already gotten about 25 high quality matches, which is more than all the other apps/sites I've used combined.

One other thing, I'm not sure if it's a Euro/French thing or what, but the interactions on these sites seem way different. It's difficult to tell if they're interested and they often just deflect any attempts at humor and keep things serious. On the other hand I've been chatting with a girl from Québec, a girl from England, and 1 from Scotland and it's way more like I'm used to. Playful, fun banter back and forth, engaging conversation, and easy to turn into dates. Maybe it's an anglo vs. continental Europe cultural difference I'm not understanding?

IME Russian/Ukranian girls have always been very straightforward with me IRT flirting/staying in touch/what they want, albeit they all had immigrated to the US/only learned English as a teenager/were not incredibly Americanized.