I never said that, but if you disrespect them by invading their personal space you just show you are some caveman only interested in having sex with them.

Exactly. She basically thought I would do that with ANY girl.

I learned my lesson.

Most of the guys in this thread think online dating is the magic pill. I thought the same thing when I made my account on pof.

The truth is if your live game sucks you will not get girls online. Of course,you'll get lucky sometimes but it won't be with the girl you want.

I don't know about you guys but I want consistency. Anybody can get lucky couple times a year.

It's not a "magic pill" but it does take the guess work out of finding single women IRL and the awkwardness of breaking the ice.

True.

I had major approach anxiety 2 yrs ago. Blasted thru it and it wasn't easy.

But once you break that ice a few times and you see that ...hey nothing happens she didn't bite me I'm still alive lol you'll be more confident because you have a new reference experience now.

And that's what game is. A bunch of reference experiences.

Pure curiosity, are you over or under the age of 30?

Generally speaking there are period's in a guy's life where he's decided that the dating he is going to go on is with the goal of trying to find a compatible life mate. So what I'm saying if that if you're in that period of your life (as many are with online dating), then you'll know if the person you went on a date with from the web is someone you'd consider as a prospect for serious dating, or not. If you're using online dating to bang a steady stream of hoes (and its also great for that), then obv you try to score with as many, and as quickly, as humanly possible. But I'd say it depends heavily on the type of person you are, and your objectives.

My writing skills sucks,English is my second language.
My wing Chris posted this on pua forum. The guy is really ****ing good maybe you can understand it
better.



Key 1 Vibing is the key to infinite conversation, when guys have a problem with what to say next they are struggling with vibing. The biggest reason guys are stuck in their head is because they are filtering out what to say in order to impress the girl. This brings us to key number one in vibing: “Lower the Bar”. We all have a lifetime of unique experiences, it’s not like you were born yesterday. You have so much to talk about; the problem is you’re setting such a high standard for what to say that you forget about these things. You have to understand that when women connect, it’s not based on the context. It doesn’t matter if you’re talking about your favorite cereal or your cool trip to Brazil. They connect through emotion, they relate to you through the enthusiasm and passion that you bring. A cool guy can take a boring topic like the weather, and turn it into the most interesting conversation you’ve ever had. The chode says: “It's so hot outside; I wish it wasn’t so hot. This sucks.” Boring! The cool guy says: “It's so HOT outside. HEY let’s take our clothes off, and go STREAKING!” Awesome! It’s not what you say, it’s the way you say it. Lower the bar, you can talk about anything as long as you say it with passion.

Key 2 This brings us to key number two in vibing: “Self Amusement”. When you’re conversing with a woman, talk about things that you enjoy and think are cool. Talk about your favorite dinosaur, why you hate lemons, why you love Miami, why you love the show Dexter, why you hate peanut butter. When people think of self amusement, they assume it has to be jumping around like a madman and screaming like a banshee. Those are all forms of it, but self amusement is also casually talking about things you enjoy. It's not going to spike your state like the others, but you will notice that the more you talk about your interests the more present you become. The more you entertain yourself with your conversational threads, the easier the words fall out your mouth. Chodes modify their topics to accomodate the girl, they're talking to pump up her state. You don't modify ****, you're talking because you like to hear the sound of your voice. You're pumping your own state, the only purpose of the conversation is to get you excited.

Am I doing it right?You will know when you're vibing, your mouth won’t stop moving and every word that comes out amuses you even more. It’s a nonstop flow of energy. Because you’re so focused on entertaining yourself, you won’t even be aware of the girl’s reactions. You’ll hear a giggle here and there but because you only care about how you feel, her reactions are irrelevant. This is your movie, you are the star and she is the spectator. Of course, you also want to be leading and escalating while you're doing this, and eventually you want to get her to invest. Its very easy, simply shut up while locking eye contact to put the pressure on her. She will most likely break the silence with chode questions like: "Where are you from", from here you can sit back and let her do the gaming.

In before someone itt takes advice gets laid then catches AIDS.

Not sure how you define physical or early but comfort and rapport are built utilizing confidence and physical proximity so you should be making physical contact the moment you come within arms reach. It doesn't matter if it's a hug or a hand shake followed by touching the person on the arm just below the shoulder, but you need to break that barrier as soon as possible.

+1 the sooner you do it the less awkward it is.

Same with the kiss. Don't wait for signals just do it. Even if you get the cheeck it makes the interaction more playful. Act like nothing happend, continue with the conversation and try again 5 min later.

All, garcia is trolling/leveling. Just ignore him. It's what he does most of the time but it's lame in this thread when others are trying to be legit helpful.

TomCollins is right about the arms tip, but that's sort of online dating 101. As it is I'd never go on a date (or establish contact for that matter) with any woman who posted only face pics. Guaranteed fat. It's only marginally better than no pics at all.

amazinmets, glad to hear about your success regardless of how it came about.

Thanks.
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I'm 25. I don't like your black and white approach unless maybe you're 35+ and really want to have kids soon.

what happens if I'm trying to "just bang a steady stream of hoes" and meet the girl of my dreams? what happens if I'm aiming for something serious soon and someone comes along who's fine/ok but not ideal? if you aren't infatuated with someone for the first few months or so at least, it probably won't get any better.

The major point you are missing is it lets you very quickly weed through girls who either you would have zero interest in, or would likely not be interested in you. No matter what, you will never be able to go through the shear numbers that online would provide you. The more picky you are/obscure your interests are, the more beneficial it is. If your criteria is "looks good", then it probably isn't as beneficial.

Amazin,

Assuming that's true, you make awesome yet amazingly bad decisions!

All 100% true.

Amazin,

Where was the cell phone you texted to? That seems like the number one thing a hooker would steal! Also, closet seems like a super obvious place for her to look for stuff!

I put it in the man's pocket. I gave the guy a call earlier today to make sure eveything was OK. And he said it was and thanked me for being honest and making sure their belongings OK. He said they hadn't slept in 30 hours, and had had way to much to drink while playing blackjack earlier, and that's why they were out cold.

Here's the real kicker: I ask her, what ever happened to the girl, and he says "Oh, she's right next to me".

I couldn't help it, I cracked up.

Ok 25 helps me frame this a lot.

What you're saying, vs what I'm trying to explain, are two dif things. I'm telling you that a chick that's DTF on day 1, is not an ideal partner for anything beyond just banging. That's regardless of your intentions, your goals, whatever. If you find a girl like that and are lucky enough to bang her, I really recommend you not fall in love with her (should you start to steer in that direction). That's all I'm saying. That's time tested, and I acknowledge that there are exceptions. One of the biggest exceptions being decent girls who are rebounding hard, and spite-screwing in a tough mental period. It's possible that one of those can turn out to be a good one. Although often you're just being used to make an old bf jealous, or to make them feel pretty again.

Truckers don't carry $5,000 in cash. Period.

No idea, I don't know anything about the trucking business. All I can go by is what they told me and what happened that night.

lol what...they just came from a casino, that's a good night at 2/5NL and a few hands of blackjack.

I agree and I still do online dating. But I would never be able to get same caliber girls I get live. My profile is good but I'm not that good looking and that's all it matters online. The reason I got so many dates is because my text game is A+ but I had to put in more work then the good looking guys.

I can tell you haven't known many truckers.

and I can tell you haven't known many drunk people stumbling out of casinos.