If you respond to a text by saying "gay" because you're a srs alpha dude and you don't have time for some tricks and hoes that are all tryin to be like "that's offensive", congrats, you're a really cool dude.

If you respond to a text by saying "gay" because you read on the internet that it's part of a series of steps on how to become an alpha male and impress women, congrats, you finally made it!

Ok so I got my first # today.

I asked her for a date next Tuesday and she said she's working nights all this week but my number is xxxxxx.

I can tell she's pretty into me I think. Prob more from my profile and personality because I only have one pic up and it's not the most amazing pic of me ever. I just don't have many pics of myself, idk why. I know it's a leak but w/e.

So what do I do now? Text her tomorrow just saying hey, this is thechamp11? Should I be texting her once in a while throughout the next week? Do I try setting up a date for what would be at the earliest next weekend, right now?

standard dating thread. NLsoldier offers very helpful advice and gets roasted.

goofy,

i disagree with you. faking it till you make it works. none of this is going to make people alpha (which is unobtainable in the middle class anyway, imo) but it will save them from being GAY.

chicks cancel dates ( v poor behavior most wouldn't accept from other men) and then not only get told it's okay but the dude will BEG her to do it again.

this isn't about being cool. it's about calling out bad behavior and saving yourself from being a h0mo.

My first text after getting her number is something that continues the convo from online. You her number in a non standard way but you can still do it.

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I think i know somewhere I am going wrong with online dating. All my friends who are girls are 4, 5 or 6s. I cant think of any being better than that. Online i only interact with 7s or above. I definitly feel a bit intimitated when speaking to better looking girls as i never mix in these circles. I went to a bar tonight by myself and was chatting to the best looking girls in there to help and it went quite well didnt try anything just good convo.

How can something so inflammatory be passive aggressive? Would calling her a dirty slut be passive as well?

Also, who's freaking out in this situation? You are aware of course that women don't ever cancel dates with dudes their really into, right? When they cancel it's bull**** at best and a better option came along at worst.

Gay is fine. Lame is fine. "Cool" is not fine. Ok let's reschedule is terrible. Nice guys finish last bro....and you don't have to be a dick to not be "nice."

bro when you spout off like i do you're bound to say something smart.

How can you possibly think this?? So, so wrong.

outside of actual emergencies...no, i'm not.

My week: had dates set for Monday Wednesday Friday. Went flake, flake, flake. Time for a break.

goofy,

as sublime said, "fake it till you make it" absolutely works. especially via text where the girl has no body language cues or anything else to make her suspect you are "faking it".

miajag,

early-mid 20s.

All online chicks?

Ya, Mon and Wed was the same girl. Think I'm just gonna try to bang girls from my softball league for a while, or build up a wingman rolodex, go out, and try to pull one nighters. I suppose Wisco DUI girl is still in the pipeline, too

Once they flake once, likely to flake again.
It may even be proper procedure to pull back after the first flake.

I'm still curious about this girl that flaked on me twice, but out of principle cannot message her again.

Getting flaked on 3 times in 5 days is about as run bad as malaysian airlines.

if i ever get flaked on again, i'm just never reaching out--they can but not me. seems like a total waste of time with other fish in the sea.

I used to send pictures of exceptionally large bowel movements to girls who flaked/ went dark after setting a specific time and place. Obviously so alpha. Get on my sophomoric level guys. "Gay," that's barely juvenile or alpha at all compared to a picture of a big steaming dump. A picture's worth a thousand words.

A thousand words is really beta. 1 word is better.

One word that carries the magnitude of a thousand words is alpha. A thousand words that carry the magnitude of one word is beta

Emergencies or work stuff. Either way to suggest that one cancellation means they aren't into you is clearly wrong. My current situation is proof of that.

That said, obviously more often than not it does mean she's likely not really feeling you. But to claim there aren't any exceptions is ridiculous.

So had a 2nd date last night with tinder girl. She is a high quality girl with a great job, **** together and is a legit 8. It was great again like the first date with the exception being physical escalation. She didn't present me with any opportunities to escalate without it being really ***** awkward. For example walking around she had her purse in one hand and her other hand was often in her jean pocket.... So she was basically closed off, it was really strange.

When I dropped her off she said she really enjoys talking to me and surprisingly mentioned wanting to get together again, but I took it with a grain of salt after she rebuffed me when I asked about walking her to her door. Anyway, today she texted me saying again she had a really good time yesterday and thanks... We exchanged a few more texts and now have rough plans set up for Wednesday. I'm curious to see where this one goes.

Tonight I'm seeing the strange skype girl for date #4. Last date ended up with heavy making out in my car for like an hour. She had her hands all over me, all around my package etc... without actually touching it and the few times I went to step things up a notch on her, she would tell me to slow down. I think I mentioned before I don't see this girl as relationship material, but I'm dead set on closing the deal with her before cutting her off after all of this teasing.

sublimes a troll right?

I read the manospear stuff becuase of him. Lol at that pack of socially inept losers trying to figure out how to be Alphas because girls treat them like socailly inept losers. Its basically Tom Lyekis minus the calling in and entertainment.

translated for sublime/LimitSoilder:

manospear seems gay.

Making out for an hour (how ****ing disgusting is that) and not getting laid is an incredible fail.

I usually get bored of making out after like 2-3 min

Agreed, but it certainly wasn't for lack of effort. Suggested we go back to my place like 3 times.

Maybe she was just cold?

Based on your description I'd definitely be willing to invest some more time into this one hoping she just takes a while to warm up to people in these situations.

Look forward to future updates.

I got flaked on last week the morning of because she picked up an extra shift at work (she works in an ER) instead. Immature as it is, but I regret not in the very least texting "lame" (she said we'd have to reschedule, then went dark when I mentioned another day). That was the 4th different girl in 3 days, so some serious Bobbo territory.