I'd rather be 6 feet. 6 4 will be awkwardly tall with a lot of girls. Imagine having sex with a 4 11 girl at 6 4

Can you help me understand why women have more to worry about wrt to their physical appearance?

Girls have to worry more about physical appearance because guys care more about physical appearance than girls.

PR,

This is just a stupid discussion. Girls generally prefer taller guys. You are not getting any taller. So what point does this discussion have except you whining and feeling sorry for yourself? None. And worse, you may be using your height as an excuse for not being able to attract decent girls. Look around, there are plenty of short guys who somehow manage to attract an attractive woman. Did they bang all the 10s along the way that their handsome rich athletic 6'2 friend did? Probably not, but so what?

Okay I think you're just trolling at this point.

eh, im not so sure I agree with this but Im admitting I could be wrong. basically I know guys will be more apt to give a girl a chance if she's okay looking. It takes a lot less for a guy (drunk) to sleep with a girl.

So you could care less about boobs, ass, and body hair on a girl? You really think you spend as much time on your hair and clothes than the average female? I'm sure guys have different standards on one night stands and girlfriends.

what is BG approved model?

And I know girls turn down all the time because they can be much more selective. I bet girls turn down 90% of the guys that approach them. Guys is definitely less than 25%.

At 5'5 I have a lot more to be worried about than most girls. As tough as that it is to say.

I'd be willing to bet I spend as much time on my clothes as the average female.

there's no way to sugar coat it - being short is a big disadvantage, and there're a lot of women to whom you'll never be relationship material. it's status, it makes them wet and it ensures taller children who'll have an easier life. if i was a girl, i'd never consider marrying someone as short as i am. and i'm 5'8.

but women are flawed in their own ways too, and everyone has to make compromises. so you can either spend your life trying to close the gap with piles of money, or you can make yourself a well rounded person and figure out what flaws you can live with. (although at 5'5, you're probably going to want to have a high paying job to give yourself a decent shot)

I had a friend that was 4'11 and ripped. Also, a really entertaining/ nice guy (also, giver of the worst best man speech ever apparently when he came back for a week, where he just talked about his travels). He couldn't pull any women over here. He went to South Korea to teach English 3 years ago and probably will never come back. He gets women over there I would presume is the #1 reason.

How old were you when you had those? Wasn't that a while ago? It's possible that the odds went from greatly in your favor to greatly against just based on ages. Also rungood. Also, haven't you moved? Perhaps you are a bit out of place where you are now and it's a bit harder.

I've found sex is easier and more pleasurable with someone of similar height. I've also noticed that a lot of taller women (5 8+) are more lenient about height, and simp,y ask that their partner be their height or taller.

Guys would be more selective if they were approached as often as girls are. You'd be more successful if you asked out girls that are attracted to you. Just pay attention to the cues.
How much time do you spend shopping for underwear?

it still doesnt compute for me. its status that I was born at the height Im at? I know we are on a gambling site but basically girls just treat things like a gamble and they just want the guy that got the best life hand? that seems quite superficial to me. especially because women say they arent superficial.

I also dont understand what tons of money or getting ripped would do for me. i'd still be the short guy that they arent biologically attracted to.

Both relationships were 2-3 years ago when I was 30/31. The other two were the first two girls I dated after I moved (a few months ago). I am definitely more out of place here than when I was in grad school. But of course, I also now have a much better job. So I would think the factors would balance out. My response rate to messages is now much higher than it used to be (I think I also now have a better thumbnail pic), while my success rate on dates is lower.

PR - Are you a white male living in America?

So just to clarify, you would date an ugly, skinny girl with a good personality, because being ugly can be fixed with make-up?

PR,

I think a big part of your problem is that you are both short and not very smart.

Going on my first online date in a while tonight.

It's weird, I had been hanging out with this awesome girl, but super stressed about it because she had been sending me mixed messages (she's not a great communicator). I finally just asked her what the deal was (drunk obviously) and she admitted she didn't want a relationship. She was still having fun hanging out, just not looking for anything serious. I actually thought I'd be kind of sad about it, but we seem on good terms, and I feel much better knowing wtf is going on for a change.

Actually feeling optimistic for the first time in a while!

the only people who say they aren't superficial are the ones who're desperate and can't afford to be selective, and the people who have the most going for them can afford to be (and will be) the most selective.

a guy who's 5'5 is the equivalent of a girl who's pretty nasty looking.
and if you really need to have this explained, you probably aren't the brightest either.

if you really aren't superficial, then prove it and start messaging the ugliest girls on the sites. i'm sure you'll do just fine.

JK, underwear is easy for a guy, you know that. Sneakers and fitted hats on the other hand....

Powerful, of course its possible. But id focus more on real life rather than online, since online women can sit back and afford to be technical about numbers, while live you can use a lot more to charm her. Im 5'8 and have dated women i thought were stunning and taller than me at times. And i used to be an extremely shy introvted guy until i finished highschool.

But theres a learning curve, and you have to develop a thick skin and be smart.

For people who werent always successful with women, state of mind plays a big role. When im in a good mood i can look at a stunning woman accross a bar and shell instantly smile at me and want me. When im in a ****ty self doubting mood ill come off as needy or hungry looking.

Best way is to put yourself out there, realise that its a game of numbers for everyone, actually enjoy rejections as funny and useful experiences, and youll have a lot of positive experiences to build on.

id say its pretty difficult to be really ugly if you are skinny and have a good personality.

how many girls are truly ugly? I rarely see any that are in good shape. maybe my standards arent that high.