Wait a couple days before a follow up text. 2-3 days, girls are very scared of guys who contact them too frequently

When we've messaged on the site and texted, she's been fairly prompt in replying. But I guess if she's going to start playing games now, two can do that. I texted her early Tuesday evening, so I might just do want tonymark01 said casually

She may not be playing games, she could have been out somewhere or had her phone die, etc. I like to give the benefit of the doubt, she may come back and find two texts from someone and girls are fickle and may be weirded out.

Youre ignoring the fact that you postponed the date which sucks for her regardless of how well you explained it.

How am I ignoring that?

uh no - i am 6' and a 6'4" me would be 100x as attractive

This obviously accurate description of male heights was posted in SL, applies in online dating as well

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The waitress from last Sunday morning doesn't want to go out again. I asked her what went wrong, and didn't get a particularly useful reply:
I asked the Japanese girl from two weeks ago too, but never got a response.

However, I think I may have five dates in the next week, including two second dates.

Tomorrow is the ND doctor from last week. I'll keep an open mind here, but she will need to convince me. But we are going for delicious Greek tapas & ouzo, and she is paying, so I'm excited!

Friday is 1st date with 26-yo blonde lawyer who winked at me first on match. I expect the date will be short b/c she told me she has friends coming into town later that night (and thus couldn't meet the rest of the weekend).

Saturday will be a second date with a girl I met this past Monday...she's a 28-yo blonde med student; lived in Poland as a child (but no accent), went to Stanford. This date went really well...it actually followed the pattern I aim for, except she was sort of leading (restaurant --> dive bar --> back to apartment). And she didn't invite me in when we got back to her apartment, and I didn't press it. I think I might have cockblocked myself when I told her days earlier that I probably wouldn't want to stay out late Monday night b/c of my class Tuesday morning (I don't know what I was thinking). In any case, she texted me 5 min after the date ended saying she hoped to see me again this weekend, and we've already planned for her to come up to my neighborhood on Saturday.

I also will probably schedule two more dates. One is a 28-yo med Jewish girl who works as an "healthcare account executive". She had a boring profile, but she winked at me first and she's probably the most purely attractive of my upcoming prospects...she asked me out on her second message, but we haven't actually texted yet.

The final prospect is a girl who just messaged me tonight immediately asking if I wanted to meet for a drink. The strange thing is I messaged this girl 6 weeks ago and she never responded. She's a 30-yo med student also originally from Maryland. Strangely, she's one of the few girls I've seen on OKC with "casual sex" checked on their profile...not sure how to interpret all that.

In any case, I am optimistic!

Nick,

Good luck, and I hope you find something that clicks. However, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, I kinda feel like you're maybe trying way too hard.

Nick,

Better pick up a fresh 12pk of her pleasure's

NickMPK,

It's like how expert archers take time to reflect after every round of shooting, to see how they could improve their technique, but then some guys just shoot 9,000 arrows at once but don't try to learn anything from it.

Looooooooooooooooool

Yeah, I haven't gotten my profile up yet, but I think I would take a couple weeks off if I started off 0-3 or something

It just felt like you werre treating her not replying as an action rather than a reaction.

Nick, are you trying new things or do you just want to keep going like you were until one clicks?

Try being 5'8 and thin(read healthy). Not only do you not meet their height requirements but now they get turned off cuz you make them feel fat lol. O these women are ****ed.

I'm starting to hate you, Nick.

Nick, for the doctor the line about friends from out of town could very well be a bail out option shes giving herself if she doesn't like you. I've used similar when I was going on a date I wasn't super excited about.

Nick, GL on these upcoming dates but I think it may be healthy to take a break every now and again. Chasing a million women in circles w/o getting tangible results can take a pretty big toll on your soul. It happens to like every PUA ever which is why everybody in that community is so weird and warped (on top of selection bias ofc).

I'd suggest to pursue these upcoming dates and hopefully one of them sticks and you can quit anyway. If not I'd plan to take a few weeks off to feel human again.

You didn't, don't beat yourself up too hard over it

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results - Einstein

Ahh so I felt the need to post in this thread since Im looking for advice. Ive been struggling with dating for well...a while

Im 26 and its been 26 long years of struggling with the opposite sex. first off im about 5'5 or 5'6 in good shoes. I think thats where my problem begins and maybe ends? Ill admit that the chart that was posted got me off of my feet and into this thread. I was a little overweight but about 6 weeks ago started running and lifting a little bit. im pretty close to normal (could lose 5/10 more). my insecurity lies in the fact that even if I lose some weight and get into shape will it even matter being 5'5? I want to date a hot girl. I have a decent paying job working as an engineer and I have some friends from attending a big 10 university in the midwest that I go out with. Currently living outside Chicago but traveling to Miami for work a few times a month.

I was always told by my parents and my friends that girls like you for you and that they are attracted to personality and status. I do have a fair amounts of friends from college I hang around (male/female) and I also am pretty extroverted.

I just have been unable to shake the height thing. Im debating signing up for POF or OKC or one of these sites but Im feeling like it will be a waste of time like real dating. I feel like Im going to have my profile passed on for taller guys. And if I lie by a few inches what will happen when we meet in person? Can I get a hot girl at 5'5? It seems like I am immediately shoved aside for a taller, more muscular, better looking guy. but I thought that didnt matter and guys were just superficial!! My main frustration lies that Im getting passed over by girls that are 5'0-5'2. they are going for the tall guys, too!!!! I have a crush on an Asian girl that I work with who is 5 feet. I heard through a friend that she wants to date guys over 6 feet to overcompensate for her shortness. So if I cant get her what can I get!!

sorry for the long post and I appreciate any advice.

-steve

stev,

It is really pretty simple. You have a disadvantage that you need to make up for in other ways. These potentially include being rich, being in really sick shape, being more socially connected, being famous, dressing exceptionally well, etc.

I certainly didn't start off 0-3. I slept with 4 of the first 6 girls I ever had online dates with, and had relationships with 2 of them. I'm just like 0 for 20 since then. Seems like I'm being hustled!

In any case, I did take about three weeks around the holidays where I didn't go on any dates. Obviously, I've been asking for advice and trying to change things, but I can't very well take any advice without actually going on more dates. And keep in mind that two of my next three dates are second dates, so there seems to be some sign of improvement.

Yeah, I'm not beating myself up over this one, since I'm seeing her again on Saturday.

Depending on your definition of "hot", you might just need to relax your standards here. You can't really blame a girl for being superficial if you're going to select a girl on completely superficial qualities as well.