You have to have good dick pics....
-no soft pics, no one wants to see a flacid penis
-no ball pics, like wtf are guys thinking? Women don't want to see a close up if your balls.
-Have a pic or your chest and abs.


Message women with pictures of hearts or whatever, they are more likely real.

Just from experience with CL, women get about 200men replying in the first 30mins.
I would leave the ad open for 30mins, narrow down the 200 to 5 pretty quickly and message those 5 to see who was the funniest or most charming.
It's a long shot but you have a chance with those sites.

Man, I feel like most dates I go on the woman talks like 80% of the time. I could probably go entire dates without ever doing anything but ask questions and give nods.

Yeah, they seem really shady. You'd think it'd be easy for like-minded adults to just hook up this way. Alas, gotta go the old school route it seems.

Interesting. I guess you feel like young guys these days have it a lot harder?

Yeah it should be easy, but I put it down to 3 potential reasons. 1) the sites are all scams full of fake profiles and barely anyone is legit 2) women have much higher standards for sex these days than they did 20 years ago 3) the media blowing out of proportion stories of predators/stalkers/catfishers, making women too afraid to explore this option (even though it's really easy to avoid this - just go on webcam before meeting and meet in a public place)

How many dates have worked out this way to where you think you're doing something wrong?

1) I would not do coffee if avoidable, I'd do a drink (drinks). Loosens both of you up and the setting is usually more conducive to romance/attraction as opposed to bright coffee shops. If you/she don't drink fine, but find a good coffee spot where you can sit and chat if at all possible.

2) I would not do walks, I'd sit in the bar/lounge/coffee shop, preferably a place you've been to before (for me, the "home court advantage" effect is very real). A walk takes focus in and of itself, attention is divided. You need to be able to dial in to the vibe rather than sightseeing. (If you felt it was working for you that would be a different story.)

3) Gym and Netflix seem like dry topics, although probably it just depends on your approach. Are you "playful" or do you discuss these things more seriously?

I've written some stuff in the last few months about the tone I try to strike on first dates and silly little stories/jokes I have.

But anyway yea, unless you're like 0 for your last 30 or something you probably just need more practice.

Anyone ever swapped accounts with someone else? Looks like fun imo:

Samauri - you wanted too long and she found another pole to ride, sorry man

I matched on tinder with a woman who has an ad for Herbalife as her last pic lol.

me: How's that pyramid scheme life working out?
her: ???
me: I mean Herbalife, stupid autocorrect
her: normal

Was it at any point emotional for you or for her?

I had so many such dates, where I just keep-up the small talk and am actually deathly bored. I don't know.....I don't have a recipe for success. From your description it sounds like 1,5 hours of small talk.

It is usually better if there is a lot of laughter or if there is something that goes beyond small talk, something where there is a strong emotion behind.

Some backstory: i've had tinder installed for a few years (I'm in the Netherlands). Total haul: one decent but boring date that led nowhere and hundreds of absolutely dead/nothing conversations.

I checked this thread a few days ago and found the "ultimate guide to tinder dating" through some link that was posted itt, as well as some stuff about tinder being dead and bumble being all that. I checked my tinder chats and it really is dead so i uninstalled tinder, installed bumble, and went to work with those 'tactics' from the guide.

First match (she has some pics of her on an outside terrace of a bar, in a boat in Venice or w/e, up in a tree, and in the wilderness somewhere), conversation:

her: hey
me: somethingsometing in Dutch:
her: my Dutch isn't that good, if you don't mind
me (i said the following in Dutch in opening message): hey [name], great pictures! though for a first date we should go chill on a terrace, not have any boat trips just yet. or climb trees of course!
her: haha
her: i really enjoy spending time in nature
Her: sitting in terrace is good
me: perfect, i've never been to eindhoven (her location, city not far from mine) yet! I can picture us at your favorite terrace (you'll have to have one!) with a tasty drink in the late summer sun
her: good idea i have a few favorite spots
me: awesome! there is one little disaster though, i am going on holiday to berlin for a week+ this saturday and visiting some friends out of town the weekend after that. what's your number so we can work something out for after that?
her: sure
her: [number]

Me being gone for holiday next both weekends and unavailable the weekend after that are true.

Anyway i responded:

me: i'll call you around that time sometime. in the meantime you could tell me where you are from i'm wondering?


Now how do i keep this alive for ~ 3 weeks? Bad timing with the holidays, or i would have said to call her tomorrow to set something up for this weekend which would have seemed perfect. now what though? how do i keep this alive?

I would say it has been the last 5 dates that I thought it went reasonably well. I've had dates that I didn't like them or that I knew it went badly. It's just weird when we seem to have a good conversation.

1) I don't really feel like going for a drink on Mon, Tuesday, Wed night. I don't think not drinking is the issue.

2) I've been to the place I picked a number of times. She suggested we go for a walk in the park.

3) We talked about the gym because she does crossfit competitions and she did Karate seriously before. We talked about Pumping Iron and the new fitness documentaries. Conversation did flow.

So last night I had another date and she mentioned I had a bit of a facial tick. I have a very minor tick sometimes when I am anxious or excited that comes and goes. I am thinking that's what it must be. I asked the girl from the night before and she said she did notice it but that wasn't the reason (Which I am thinking she is saying to not hurt my feelings).

I think there's a chance that the conversations are going well for you but not for your dates. There's some amount of work involved in most (but not all) conversations and if you don't feel like you're doing much work then the other person probably does.

Interesting approach. That fantasy convo N1 style or did you actually do that? And did she unmatch you already?

Maybe, but she tried to set up a date for tonight. It’s currently up in the air whether we’re meeting or not.

Anyone have any experience getting hookers from dating apps? Asking for a friend.

I dont thikn there are a lot of 18-20 yr olds on 2p2 anymore, but if youre a lurker and are under 21 yrs old or in your 20's. this is just a quote you need to have in your heart, mind and soul. So many opportunities to LEARN and GROW from. shoot your shot in a responsible manner and what happens is what happens. nobody shoots 100% or even above 80% lifetime. Shoot. Your. Shot.

also I have noticed some slightly more success when i am playful/flirty on my first couple messages online interactions and throwing in emojiis. altho i still am nowhere near a lot of peoples levels on here, maybe its just the age range im dealing with.

Damn, you basically just summed up most of my dates. No one cares what sports team you kinda like because you family is from there or where you're hoping on traveling next year. Tough to get more out of someone on the apps though in my experience

Just a reminder fellas that this is the kind of charm MLY, and therefore every other woman, is looking for in a guy.

Her rent must be due soon

I matched with someone on bumble, exchanged a few texts, got her number.

Took it to texting her actual phone number, made plans to meet for a drink. I'd send her a text day of to confirm, and she'd say something came up and can we re-schedule?

With her picking the day, we've re-scheduled twice more, and after her picking tonight, she wants to re-schedule AGAIN.

I'm correct to tell her 3 strikes and you're out, and that other guys might be desperate enough for a date that they'd put up with being re-scheduled 3 times, but I'm not.

Right?

If you have yet to meet her in person, 2 strikes is sufficient.

In any event, don't actually say/type anything from your last paragraph ("other guys might be desperate enough for a date") to her.

Guess it also depends on how hot / awesome she is and what other potentials you have

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Challenge here to a game of Calvinball