"In reality" 'vegan' is an accurate term to describe a person who adheres to a vegan diet. The (prior) insistence on digging a holier than thou moat around the generic term vegan I hope has been replaced by a more accurate, non self-defined "militant" vegan."




Veganism as defined by Donald Watson (1910-2005), the man who coined the word vegan in 1944.

The word "veganism"denotes a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude — as far as is possible and practical — all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals

veg·an
ˈvēɡən/Submit
noun
1.
a person who does not eat or use animal products.

I'm not the one redefining terms to suit my personal whims

Much like the pronunciation of "gif" the originator has very little to do with the modern definition of the term. Similarly and hilariously, note the definition you'v just posted has nothing to do with an "ethical stance" and merely says that the person does not eat or use animal products. Insanely (I know!) words can have multiple common definitions: "A follower of either the diet or the philosophy is known as a vegan." (wiki)

Also:

"he's about as flexible as a metal rod."
"Softened stance"

Insert hilarious joke about your recent inability to maintain an erection here.

An individual who consumes a plant-based diet but tdoes not otherwise practice veganism is just that, a plant-based dieter.

By your rationale a 'vegan' could hunt, own a fur wardrobe, run an underground dog-fighting ring, etc.

https://eatbychloe.com/2015/06/plant-based-vs-vegan/

You're wrong. Move on

Amazin - Do you sympathize with insects too? What are your thoughts on honey?

Also, do you have close friends irl? Would you be opposed to being friends with a girl before you express your romantic interest in her?

Yes

Not vegan

Yes. No

Just try dating normal girls. You'll have no problem converting them

amazin,

While I'm mildly entertained by your legit stupidity and inability to understand even mildly complex thoughts I do worry that it's likely linked to your poor results convincing women that despite your nontraditional "career," educational background, etc that you're a sharp, interesting, and fun person.

Amazin, can you give us a scenario of a fun date?

What an ungracious way to concede

You guys are making this thread worse than it already was

Can we just not discuss amazin or his vegan views in this thread? That would be great. Seems as if there’s at least one other thread where that happens, and I never knew how wonderful it was to never go there until somehow this thread turned into that one. He obviously has tons of issues that are clear to everyone but him, and he will have to do a lot of self-realization and work on himself mentally before he will ever be or find a suitable partner in life. So let’s let him do that somewhere other than here. I appreciate that he started this thread, but let’s not let him totally ruin it now. Sound good?

Take a look at who continually breaches the issue in this thread and quotes posts from the vegan thread.

Hint: it's not me

I'm not sure if you are referring to me amazin? I only quoted those posts as they seemed to go against what you were saying so I was seeking clarification. Totally agree that we should keep this purely a dating advice thread. Amazin dating brings different criteria into the equation unfortunately but I am totally fine with not giving him advice as it is probably pretty useless anyway. Good luck to everyone looking for love.

Yes, among others. There is no reason for veganism to be an issue. We can simply assume I'm dating vegan women and give advice as you would in any other situation.

The issue is I'm constantly besieged besieged with a litany of questions and comments relating to my practicing of veganism e.g:

"he's also a pretty weird crazy vegan which doesn't help his cause and looking for only crazy vegans....(i guess most vegans are nuts)."

"Amazin - Do you sympathize with insects too? What are your thoughts on honey?"

"All that said, "This simplifies veganism as a dietary choice. In reality it's an ethical stance which diet is one aspect of." is again amazin imposing his definitions of terms. "In reality" 'vegan' is an accurate term to describe a person who adheres to a vegan diet. The (prior) insistence on digging a holier than thou moat around the generic term vegan I hope has been replaced by a more accurate, non self-defined "militant" vegan."

Some of these posts aren't in anyway related to dating; there's absolutely to reason for them to be posted ITT. If you have a genuine query, post in the vegan thread.

FWIW, this sequence isn't unique to this thread. I'll often post regarding topics that have no relation to veganism, and inevitably a 2+2er will attempt to relate it to veganism. When I respond they'll shift the onus upon me and decry that I'm a "crazy vegan".

I understand what you are saying and I am somewhat sympathetic to your dilemma. I do think I wasn't being out of line in quoting what I did though as it did seem to go against what you were saying. You clarified things which I appreciated as it's hard to give advice if you are under the wrong impression. Fwiw if you have truly softened your stance I do think you will have a far greater chance of finding someone for a relationship. It's also refreshing that you actually want a relationship and not just sex.

Amazin,

Have you considered the idea that perhaps people focus on your vegan posts because whenever you get advice about dating you completely disregard it? You only act on anything related to the vegan stuff. You take absolutely none of the dating advice you ask for.

Lazer,

I look at it in a different way. I think everyone's personalities are reflected in their dating and relationships.

Amazin showed a very non-nuanced way of getting into veganism that is consistent with his non-nuanced way of approaching dating and relationships.

I think it'll be easier for amazin to find a similar personality to bond with than to try and change/expand himself into a different type of person with a wider range of dating possibilities.

Seems like self selecting for vegan would generally be a benefit, even if it greatly reduces the total number of people.

So if we assume Amazin is right and the US is 2% vegan, take out the people that don't match his criteria and then reduce it to complementary personality types that gives him a dating pool of what, six women?

Booker,

That's why he needs to expand his outreach!

But 4 of those 6 are probably in Portland so it isn't as bleak as it sounds.

You are very uncompromising. Not exactly a recipe for maintaining healthy relationships.

All my assets including my children on the under 2%.

Yes please