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Old 09-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #176
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Wild guess, but I would assume because 1136 is a multiple of 16 (i.e. hexadecimal)
Combining that with 1136 x 639 being exactly 16:9, those dimensions make some sense to me now.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:26 PM   #177
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I can't quite make sense of the new resolution. Previously 960 x 640 (3:2), now 1136 x 640. Ok, they want to keep exactly the same width while adding extra pixels to get to a 16:9 aspect ratio. But 640 * 16 / 9 = 1137.777 (repeating). So why not used 1138 x 640 instead to approximate that ratio as closely as possible? Granted it's only two pixels difference, likely imperceptible, but still, there must be some reason they chose 1136 instead of 1138. Just curious if anyone knows.

1136 x 639 is exactly 16:9 though. 1080p content will be displayed with one line of pixels blacked out?
Interesting explanation @ MacRumors forum - basically that it comes down to the math that it would take to scale the two resolutions. One can be done with only integer math while the other would require more costly floating point operations.

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Neither 1138x640 nor 1136x640 are "true 16:9 aspect ratio", but 1136x640 is actually more appropriate for scaling.

16/9 = 1.77777778
1138/640 = 1.778125
1136/640 = 1.775

They chose 1136 because it's divisible by an integer (71) that's also a multiple of 639 (very close to the horizontal resolution).

16*71= 1136
9*71 = 639

If they chose 1138 they would have to scale using a floating-point factor (71.125):

16*71.125 = 1138
9*71.125 = 640.125

And the horizontal resolution scaling result wouldn't even have been an integer (640.125), so it wouldn't have worked well.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:29 PM   #178
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Just a thought, what's to stop you from buying the IPhone 5 unlocked and just plugging in the Verizon sim? Just don't go for the subsidy from them
I thought they changed the sim size from a micro sim to a nano sim?
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:34 PM   #179
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Everything is a cash grab this time around. New lightning adapters. Smaller sims cards. Losing Verizon unlimited data. Apple raised the rake on us this time but they brought in auto shufflers.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:34 PM   #180
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The more serious issue is: How will apps designed for the iPhone 5 display look on older iPhones? Either image downscaling with some loss of detail, or developers have to code for two different display modes.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:39 PM   #181
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Everything is a cash grab this time around. New lightning adapters. Smaller sims cards. Losing Verizon unlimited data. Apple raised the rake on us this time but they brought in auto shufflers.
Apple is only responsible for one of those.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:19 PM   #182
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Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread

I actually used another one of my family member's upgrade to get this iphone. Its kind of nice for me because ours alternate every year and I sell my previous version to almost break even. With that being said, I had to fix the shipping address to mine and my shipping date still shows 9/21/12 on the track order page and hopefully its delivered on time.

This is kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the phone just gets shipped as is (fresh off the shelves) or does it come pre-activated? It's gonna create some major hassle for me if that were the case...
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:20 PM   #183
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The more serious issue is: How will apps designed for the iPhone 5 display look on older iPhones? Either image downscaling with some loss of detail, or developers have to code for two different display modes.
I think it will be okay, perhaps they'll only offer apps to iphone 5 specifically?
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:40 PM   #184
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Of course there are ways to deal with it, but having devices with different aspect ratios is a new problem that ios apps didn't have to handle before. It's a less unified development environment than it was previously and I'm curious to see how this issue will be addressed.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:43 PM   #185
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I actually used another one of my family member's upgrade to get this iphone. Its kind of nice for me because ours alternate every year and I sell my previous version to almost break even. With that being said, I had to fix the shipping address to mine and my shipping date still shows 9/21/12 on the track order page and hopefully its delivered on time.

This is kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the phone just gets shipped as is (fresh off the shelves) or does it come pre-activated? It's gonna create some major hassle for me if that were the case...
I assume pre-activated? Else, why would anyone ever buy an unlocked phone for $650+?

But then again, I have no idea. I've never bought a phone directly through Apple.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:43 PM   #186
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Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread

anyone know if you can keep your phone # if you switch carriers from say ATnT to Verizon?
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:47 PM   #187
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Yes, you can keep your number.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:12 PM   #188
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I assume pre-activated? Else, why would anyone ever buy an unlocked phone for $650+?

But then again, I have no idea. I've never bought a phone directly through Apple.
well not really. You are still agreeing to a two-year extension with your carrier. You get a discount because of that.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:16 PM   #189
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Except the phone is on an account that doesn't qualify for the subsidy so they might frown on that...
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:21 PM   #190
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Except the phone is on an account that doesn't qualify for the subsidy so they might frown on that...
I honestly don't think they care, if anything, they'd encourage it. Only thing they really want is the 2year extension. What diff does it make who gets the iphone as long as the contract is extended?
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:24 PM   #191
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Because cell phone providers are bastards
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:56 PM   #192
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I've always suspected many do this with their iPhone.

http://www.jest.com/video/198969/iphone-5-reviewer-sex
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:58 PM   #193
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Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread

wait for about 25mins and got some clarifications.

For those who ordered today, regardless as to when you ordered (3:05am or 11am), the iphones will start being shipped on 9/21/12 w/2-3weeks in shipping time. So we are looking at early October-ish to rec'd them.

Apple stores will have iphone 5's available on 9/21, but im guessing those are for those who haven't pre-ordered and are just gonna wait all night in line for it.

As for my personal question, all iphones will be shipped blank, meaning not pre-activated.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:37 PM   #194
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wait for about 25mins and got some clarifications.

For those who ordered today, regardless as to when you ordered (3:05am or 11am), the iphones will start being shipped on 9/21/12 w/2-3weeks in shipping time. So we are looking at early October-ish to rec'd them.

Apple stores will have iphone 5's available on 9/21, but im guessing those are for those who haven't pre-ordered and are just gonna wait all night in line for it.

As for my personal question, all iphones will be shipped blank, meaning not pre-activated.
That's odd and unfortunate
Assumed it was like iPad and previous iPhones and get it same day apple has it
Hopefully the person you spoke with is incorrect.

Edit: my Verizon receipt says delivery by 9/21
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:29 PM   #195
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Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread

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wait for about 25mins and got some clarifications.

For those who ordered today, regardless as to when you ordered (3:05am or 11am), the iphones will start being shipped on 9/21/12 w/2-3weeks in shipping time. So we are looking at early October-ish to rec'd them.

Apple stores will have iphone 5's available on 9/21, but im guessing those are for those who haven't pre-ordered and are just gonna wait all night in line for it.

As for my personal question, all iphones will be shipped blank, meaning not pre-activated.
I have no evidence to back this up but your post seems wrong.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:53 PM   #196
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Edit: my Verizon receipt says delivery by 9/21
Mine too
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:02 PM   #197
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I ordered my iphone today and was told activation instructions will be included with the iphone, and can be activated anywhere
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:41 PM   #198
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Now when I get my new iPhone obviously I will transfer the backup of my 4 to the 5.

Now what happens when a day or two later when we have ATT switch my wifes number to the 4? How will syncing work? Will that confuse itunes? Can you sync 2 separate iPhone's in itunes?
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:01 PM   #199
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Also is using the iCloud worth it? Any advantages?
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Old 09-15-2012, 12:11 AM   #200
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Also is using the iCloud worth it? Any advantages?
5 GB's are free... Mindless backup's. Shared contacts, lists, notes, bookmarks, app data (Like ibooks)

Why not do it?
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