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09-14-2012, 04:24 PM   #176
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 Originally Posted by Ungoliant Wild guess, but I would assume because 1136 is a multiple of 16 (i.e. hexadecimal)
Combining that with 1136 x 639 being exactly 16:9, those dimensions make some sense to me now.

09-14-2012, 04:26 PM   #177
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 Originally Posted by EvilSteve I can't quite make sense of the new resolution. Previously 960 x 640 (3:2), now 1136 x 640. Ok, they want to keep exactly the same width while adding extra pixels to get to a 16:9 aspect ratio. But 640 * 16 / 9 = 1137.777 (repeating). So why not used 1138 x 640 instead to approximate that ratio as closely as possible? Granted it's only two pixels difference, likely imperceptible, but still, there must be some reason they chose 1136 instead of 1138. Just curious if anyone knows. 1136 x 639 is exactly 16:9 though. 1080p content will be displayed with one line of pixels blacked out?
Interesting explanation @ MacRumors forum - basically that it comes down to the math that it would take to scale the two resolutions. One can be done with only integer math while the other would require more costly floating point operations.

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 Neither 1138x640 nor 1136x640 are "true 16:9 aspect ratio", but 1136x640 is actually more appropriate for scaling. 16/9 = 1.77777778 1138/640 = 1.778125 1136/640 = 1.775 They chose 1136 because it's divisible by an integer (71) that's also a multiple of 639 (very close to the horizontal resolution). 16*71= 1136 9*71 = 639 If they chose 1138 they would have to scale using a floating-point factor (71.125): 16*71.125 = 1138 9*71.125 = 640.125 And the horizontal resolution scaling result wouldn't even have been an integer (640.125), so it wouldn't have worked well.

09-14-2012, 04:29 PM   #178
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 Originally Posted by Bellagibro Just a thought, what's to stop you from buying the IPhone 5 unlocked and just plugging in the Verizon sim? Just don't go for the subsidy from them
I thought they changed the sim size from a micro sim to a nano sim?

 09-14-2012, 04:34 PM #179 Bellagibro adept     Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: White Lines blow my mind... Posts: 988 Everything is a cash grab this time around. New lightning adapters. Smaller sims cards. Losing Verizon unlimited data. Apple raised the rake on us this time but they brought in auto shufflers.
 09-14-2012, 04:34 PM #180 EvilSteve Midlife Crisis     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 2p2 afterlife Posts: 13,199 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread The more serious issue is: How will apps designed for the iPhone 5 display look on older iPhones? Either image downscaling with some loss of detail, or developers have to code for two different display modes.
09-14-2012, 04:39 PM   #181
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 Originally Posted by Bellagibro Everything is a cash grab this time around. New lightning adapters. Smaller sims cards. Losing Verizon unlimited data. Apple raised the rake on us this time but they brought in auto shufflers.
Apple is only responsible for one of those.

 09-14-2012, 05:19 PM #182 triplej2688 old hand     Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Neverland Posts: 1,750 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread I actually used another one of my family member's upgrade to get this iphone. Its kind of nice for me because ours alternate every year and I sell my previous version to almost break even. With that being said, I had to fix the shipping address to mine and my shipping date still shows 9/21/12 on the track order page and hopefully its delivered on time. This is kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the phone just gets shipped as is (fresh off the shelves) or does it come pre-activated? It's gonna create some major hassle for me if that were the case...
09-14-2012, 05:20 PM   #183
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 Originally Posted by EvilSteve The more serious issue is: How will apps designed for the iPhone 5 display look on older iPhones? Either image downscaling with some loss of detail, or developers have to code for two different display modes.
I think it will be okay, perhaps they'll only offer apps to iphone 5 specifically?

 09-14-2012, 05:40 PM #184 EvilSteve Midlife Crisis     Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 2p2 afterlife Posts: 13,199 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread Of course there are ways to deal with it, but having devices with different aspect ratios is a new problem that ios apps didn't have to handle before. It's a less unified development environment than it was previously and I'm curious to see how this issue will be addressed.
09-14-2012, 05:43 PM   #185
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by triplej2688 I actually used another one of my family member's upgrade to get this iphone. Its kind of nice for me because ours alternate every year and I sell my previous version to almost break even. With that being said, I had to fix the shipping address to mine and my shipping date still shows 9/21/12 on the track order page and hopefully its delivered on time. This is kind of a dumb question, but does anyone know if the phone just gets shipped as is (fresh off the shelves) or does it come pre-activated? It's gonna create some major hassle for me if that were the case...
I assume pre-activated? Else, why would anyone ever buy an unlocked phone for \$650+?

But then again, I have no idea. I've never bought a phone directly through Apple.

 09-14-2012, 05:43 PM #186 CharlieDontSurf Blessed by Pope     Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lost at sea Posts: 14,328 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread anyone know if you can keep your phone # if you switch carriers from say ATnT to Verizon?
 09-14-2012, 05:47 PM #187 Benholio Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 8,292 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread Yes, you can keep your number.
09-14-2012, 06:12 PM   #188
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 Originally Posted by Mark_K I assume pre-activated? Else, why would anyone ever buy an unlocked phone for \$650+? But then again, I have no idea. I've never bought a phone directly through Apple.
well not really. You are still agreeing to a two-year extension with your carrier. You get a discount because of that.

 09-14-2012, 06:16 PM #189 kerowo lolcat     Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 33,541 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread Except the phone is on an account that doesn't qualify for the subsidy so they might frown on that...
09-14-2012, 06:21 PM   #190
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 Originally Posted by kerowo Except the phone is on an account that doesn't qualify for the subsidy so they might frown on that...
I honestly don't think they care, if anything, they'd encourage it. Only thing they really want is the 2year extension. What diff does it make who gets the iphone as long as the contract is extended?

 09-14-2012, 06:24 PM #191 kerowo lolcat     Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 33,541 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread Because cell phone providers are bastards
 09-14-2012, 06:56 PM #192 wetleg Carpal \'Tunnel     Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,252 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread I've always suspected many do this with their iPhone. http://www.jest.com/video/198969/iphone-5-reviewer-sex
 09-14-2012, 06:58 PM #193 triplej2688 old hand     Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Neverland Posts: 1,750 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread wait for about 25mins and got some clarifications. For those who ordered today, regardless as to when you ordered (3:05am or 11am), the iphones will start being shipped on 9/21/12 w/2-3weeks in shipping time. So we are looking at early October-ish to rec'd them. Apple stores will have iphone 5's available on 9/21, but im guessing those are for those who haven't pre-ordered and are just gonna wait all night in line for it. As for my personal question, all iphones will be shipped blank, meaning not pre-activated.
09-14-2012, 07:37 PM   #194
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 Originally Posted by triplej2688 wait for about 25mins and got some clarifications. For those who ordered today, regardless as to when you ordered (3:05am or 11am), the iphones will start being shipped on 9/21/12 w/2-3weeks in shipping time. So we are looking at early October-ish to rec'd them. Apple stores will have iphone 5's available on 9/21, but im guessing those are for those who haven't pre-ordered and are just gonna wait all night in line for it. As for my personal question, all iphones will be shipped blank, meaning not pre-activated.
That's odd and unfortunate
Assumed it was like iPad and previous iPhones and get it same day apple has it
Hopefully the person you spoke with is incorrect.

Edit: my Verizon receipt says delivery by 9/21

09-14-2012, 08:29 PM   #195
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 Originally Posted by triplej2688 wait for about 25mins and got some clarifications. For those who ordered today, regardless as to when you ordered (3:05am or 11am), the iphones will start being shipped on 9/21/12 w/2-3weeks in shipping time. So we are looking at early October-ish to rec'd them. Apple stores will have iphone 5's available on 9/21, but im guessing those are for those who haven't pre-ordered and are just gonna wait all night in line for it. As for my personal question, all iphones will be shipped blank, meaning not pre-activated.
I have no evidence to back this up but your post seems wrong.

09-14-2012, 08:53 PM   #196
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 Originally Posted by Brown Keeper Edit: my Verizon receipt says delivery by 9/21
Mine too

 09-14-2012, 09:02 PM #197 kleinstein000 old hand     Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,338 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread I ordered my iphone today and was told activation instructions will be included with the iphone, and can be activated anywhere
 09-14-2012, 09:41 PM #198 4 High Searching For Jenna Fischer     Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Team Jinx Posts: 11,726 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread Now when I get my new iPhone obviously I will transfer the backup of my 4 to the 5. Now what happens when a day or two later when we have ATT switch my wifes number to the 4? How will syncing work? Will that confuse itunes? Can you sync 2 separate iPhone's in itunes?
 09-14-2012, 10:01 PM #199 4 High Searching For Jenna Fischer     Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Team Jinx Posts: 11,726 Re: Official iPhone 5 Thread Also is using the iCloud worth it? Any advantages?
09-15-2012, 12:11 AM   #200
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 Originally Posted by 4 High Also is using the iCloud worth it? Any advantages?
5 GB's are free... Mindless backup's. Shared contacts, lists, notes, bookmarks, app data (Like ibooks)

Why not do it?

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