this phone is too sexy for a case

Agreed - I probably won't get the case for the 5 (I don't really care about re-sale value all that much) - in drop tests worst that happened was the coating chipped on the black phone (revealing white underneath).

For those who have Otter Cases and what not - isn't the thing damn bulky in your pocket? Also, I guess you don't care about the aesthetics/design/form factor? You are after all covering it all up in this hideous looking case.

This is what I use for iPhone 4:

http://www.powersupportusa.com/catal...t/category/53/

If I do get a case for the iPhone 5 it will be something like that.

Yes, I'm synced to an Exchange server. It looks like after this event went out, people with iCloud are sending out notifications to everyone on the list anytime there is an update to the roster (i.e. someone accepts, declines, etc.) Just completely unhelpful notifications. But a lot of them.

From someone who has bought and sold 15-20 iPhones on Craigslist in the past couple of years, I can tell you that in most cases, people would rather pay a little less for an iPhone with a couple of scratches over a pristine one that costs more. It's really overrated the notion of keeping an iPhone in pristine condition for resale value.

you're right. it's an outrage that they aren't selling an $800 phone for $100 with no strings...

Yeah, ATT, Verizon, and Sprint each have Droid phones on prepaid, but not iPhone. Cricket has the iPhone 4 and 4S, and have the 5 available for pre-order, but only has 4G in one market. That said, $55/month for unlimited voice, text, and data would be pretty good, if they actually had 4G.

EDIT: Virgin has the 4 and 4S, but not the 5 yet.

Even without 3g that's great if you can get reliable service, which has always been my issue with switching to a smaller company.

I pay $100/month or so for 450 minutes, 2 gigs and unlimited texting. Half the bill AND less restrictions would be huge, and it's not like I have 4g now.

Paul Openfold,

is your name in honour of Oakey?

There have been a few stories of late about how the Verizon iphone5 comes unlocked and can be used with other carriers. My coworker called Verizon and asked if she could buy a phone and use it on Tmobile (lol) and they obviously told her she could not.

I assume the only steps that someone would have to take is buy an iphone5 from Verizon for full price and take it into Tmobile with the SIM card ID and they would be able to use it on Tmobile. Is this correct? Any other steps?

sign up for a 2year contract lol

Maybe indirectly

Long time lurker, I got the name from a 2+2 thread "best online poker names" or something like that

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Obviously. Was asking more about whether it was actually possible, or if there was something you had to do with the hardware, etc.

the verizon phone is cdma. switching it over to a gsm network assuming it's unlocked might still not work well because the iphone5's have different models for different carries. the difference being that the 4g lte will only work on certain bands so you won't get 4g on every carrier with every phone.

Not here anyway.

They do have it advertised so they can show the the phone only costs less than £150 and your not playing a huge amount every month but you can get 12m contracts a pay a bit more each month, plus have the benefit of upgrading each year and selling your phone at a higher price.

Off course if you ask Verizon about taking their phone to T-Mobile they are going to say no. They want you on contract. That is their main goal.

Go in and ask for one at full price and if they ask a lot of questions just tell them that you are getting it for someone as a birthday gift who already has Verizon service.

You can then take the phone to T-Mobile and get their new nano sim card and the phone will work right away. At this point, depending on where you live, you will only have access to 2g speeds right now but T-Mobile is refarming their network and the iPhone 5 should have access to their 4G speeds everywhere by the end of the year. T-Mobile's 4g speeds are really fast.

Hm - this seems not that great? What carrier? I'm looking at my Verizon Wireless account online (iPhone 4) - here's my monthly cost breakout:

Nationwide Talk Unlimited: $69.99

500 Text Messages: $10.00 (Verizon grants free M2M for Verizon network - I can see how only 500 non M2M texts could be bad for some but for me it's fine as a couple good friends and girlfriend have verizon)

Unlimited Data: $29.99

$110.00 total before taxes - including taxes $123 / month

On Verizon, here's what I have:

450 minutes: $39.99 (I use barely any of these minutes, heh)
200 texts: $5.00 (I primarily use Google Voice which has free texting)
Unlimited Data: $29.99
17% corporate discount
Taxes

= ~$66/mo

Well I kicked it down to no-tethering.

As it is, 450 min is $40, same as on Verizon
3 gigs for $30, standard again
Unlimited text is $20 for me. This includes unlimited mobile-to-mobile, which is pretty valuable. I can downgrade to simply standard unlimited text and save $0, so it seems like a good value play.

$90, cuz I dropped tethering.

The iphone5 for verizon comes factory unlocked out the box.

I didnt give you this info..

Oh my company covers my costs, I wasn't factoring that in, just the overall plan costs. I only have unlimited minutes because I use my phone a decent amount for work calls when traveling. Otherwise I'd definitely try to use the 450 plan.

So I guess you didn't get grandfathered in to an unlimited data plan? Do you ever go over the 3g?

why the **** is google voice not available in the UK?

http://www.grovemade.com/product/iphone-5-case/

Per ordered

What's the easiest way to get AVI files onto the iPhone 5? I looked for the VLC app but it looks like they've only got a streaming app in the app store now.

(Using a PC btw)

I don't like the composite stuff on the front of that case, but those guys definitely have a nice range. The Miniot cases I linked to above look a bit more schmick to me (6 week wait for shipping so can't know for sure), but those skate case things for the iPhone 4s are real nice. Will def keep an eye on their range.

srsly?