Being rich is not what we are talking about. At least I am not.

If that is your definition of a successful life, I’m sorry.

McMuffin,

I forgot to ask.

I’m grunching a bit but what’s up with this gal itt arguing about job titles, when it appears she’s struggling to stay just above the poverty line.

Weird, right?


YF,

Sak

Fruit Saklad lobbing the melon balls ZING

What they are modeling can be extrapolated to other things besides being rich. It all comes down to random lucky/non lucky events.
We are talking about J's salary and being lucky.

Sure you can put yourself in a position for more lucky events to happen, but the lucky/unlucky events that precede you making a conscious decision to do so trumps your conscious actions and choices.

I would put it at 90 per cent or better.

jmakin has been on his purpose for a while now, that is true.

I agree wholly with this point, although material wealth -- sufficient for stability and to avoid stress about how to pay the bills -- is part of it.

Thanks, but I am almost certainly running hotter than the sun. M is right about that, but overall still somehow wrong.

Re: luck

I became a milk captain because I was out late one night as a teen and I had to get a job to help support my dad, who was on SS disability, and thought "yea, this looks cool." Just happened to be the perfect job to support myself working graveyards through college.

Speaking of college, I enrolled in community college on a total whim, because my clingy gf at the time wanted me to take courses with her. Then I read like a single article in some magazine like the economist that said tech jobs were expected to grow like 10% year over year for the next few decades, and was like "sure, I guess I'll study that." I just happened to be okay at it, which was lucky. Even the decent school I ended up going to, I chose because it was geographically closest to me. Had it been a **** school I probably still would have gone there.

I could have died several times or knocked someone up. Somehow faded all that. I also come from an reasonably affluent family. I am a white male. I live and was born in one of the nicest areas of the country. To ignore my privilege (or luck, as we are talking about it here) would be babs-esque and extremely assholish.

That said, I did have some things going against me, that I still struggle with. Mental illness/depression/ADHD being big ones. Idk. I've definitely been lucky overall, but I don't think my salary is completely "lucky." it's just a result of some choices I made kind of haphazardly in my mid 20's that worked out when I finally applied myself. And to be clear I think you guys think I make way more than I really do.

You'll make way over $200K straight out of college with no job experience if you are really good.

I dunno why if your goal is money, you are in engineering. I have no job experience and I could get a programming job right now that probably pays more than what you make, and after a couple years of actual experience for the resume I wouldn't even have to consider taking anything that pays less than six figures. Also the job market is way better. You lose your engineering job, youre probably spending a lot of time looking until you find another one, J loses his job and he's got his pick of jobs. Most programmers are constantly getting contacted by job recruiters, your linkdin inbox is never not blowing up. Hell, like I said, I have no job experience, and am in a related field and even I get recruiter spam and even with my blank resume I wouldn't have to take a job that pays less than about $90K. You absolutely should switch over to tech if you want to make money.


lol, your elitism regarding engineering degrees is pretty strange. I'm close friends with many engineers, and went through school with some of them, so while I'm not an "actual engineer" I've got a pretty good feel for how hard most of their classes are, and I can tell you that it isn't any more impressive work wise than a CS degree. There are some engineering degrees that are probably a little harder, and some that are a little easier, but anyone capable of getting a CS degree is capable of getting an engineering degree and visa versa.

Also none of those people I know have a minor in math, so no an engineering degree does not require a minor in math, so unless you took some higher math than needed, lol at whatever college gave you a math minor because you finished calculus and diffEQ. but as someone with an actual degree in math I can tell you your math knowledge isn't more impressive than a CS majors. In fact, i'd say while the math loads are different, that it's more likely an engineer would struggle with the CS math than the other way around. And I say that as someone who worked in the tutoring center on campus so am intimately familiar with what math is involved in those majors.

LUCK

as my old grandpappy, Sir Redmond van Buckinghamilton once said:

the harder I work, the luckier i get...

I am doing well! Yeah one of the new owners, Max, hit me up personally and made me a SE Forum mod. It was pretty sweet. Thanks

It is early but I have to say that jmakin is ****ing crushing it. Honorable mention goes out to redbuck for delivering truth bombs. gregorio's post "Nobody owns a house" was quite noteworthy in its own right.

Your Friend,

McMuffin AKA Sydney Slicka

P.S. I Love You Man is quite the underrated movie. Paul Rudd is the best and Jason Segel is a delight!

The more I think about how much luck plays into things, I am more convinced we are all a part of someone's video game. Players can choose their starting avatars or are randomly given one. Poor villager, white male in America, born with no limbs, etc. The game is scored on different categories: contempt, happiness, philanthropy, power, and asset accumulation. Players have to navigate their avatars through "life" while scoring maximum points. Other players can send attacks: cancer, slavery, horrible bosses, etc to try to knock each other out, but it also gives everyone the chance to score more points. "Goddamit I got another idiot boss, my player was freaking attacked again." Some of the avatars don't belong to players and are present to cause caus or are players weapons.
Astrology is actually real and give avatars messages of what future events will take place; the events are pre-set.....

Simulation theory is just a redefinition of this all being God's plaything imo.

I think it makes reincarnation all the more likely too. Either in terms of a random reroll, or the whole karma dynamic.

nope

Noone gets her jokes.

I know, right. Imagine the luck of a kid whose parent tells them that running a nail salon is a better career choice than becoming an engineer and that they should aim for the former.

That is one unlucky kid, indeed.

got em

Mars and Pluto are going to be in a heavenly trine this month. My house of honors and income linked! Hasn't happened in 2yrs, and with a new moon on the 6th. Hells yeah!

Owning her own business, whatever it is, is a million times better than being an engineer.
****, J has a 1/16th of my experience and makes more money than I do as an engineer and I have to put up with astronomical amounts of bullshit just because I'm a women. Of course I'm going to encourage her not to do it.

Astrology and everything being predestined is lol.

hell yea. does that indicate it is a bad time to buy a house, especially if you are a fake engineer? Asking for a friend.

Wow.

And j owns his own business?

good lord, she wants j so bad!