ADR is somewhat right here, not all handicappers that sell picks are scams. Most touts are though, and Babs is a self proclaimed tout!

Even you must agree that not including the Feb 1st results is a bit... shady at the very least?

The site went live feb 2nd you stupid little maggot.

Valid point. Let's change the statement to "Any tout selling an MLB season package for $1000 and offering partial refunds on losing months is an unprofitable fraud"

I would think that someone who claims to have years of +EV picks yet can only afford to make 75$ bets might not be completely forthcoming. Especially considering he has no dependants or mortgage payments

I'm not gonna dig through to find it, but I heard in an ESPN interview, linked from his site, that's what he does. Its one of the ones listed here http://handicapper.net/media-quotes.php

You're free not to believe me or him, but that is what he said. Who knows if its even the truth? Yeah, he could technically bet at a bunch of books. Maybe he's lying. Maybe its too much trouble and its easier for him to just release picks. Who cares? The point is, he said that's the reason and it makes sense to me, from having seen the low limits everywhere on college hoops totals.

And its not even close to sharing his picks for "a pittance". The guy HAS made millions, and its no risk. RAS is a millionaire from selling picks, period. If you'd like to escrow a huge amount and bet on that, let's start setting up terms. Because you are wrong dude. So dead wrong and so confident, that I'd like to make some money off you at this point. I will bet any amount you want that RAS has made more than $1 million dollars from his business lifetime. LOL at you dude, all talk! Zero ability to back it up. Let's bet! Cmon, all touts are scammers and if they had the ability to beat sports they'd be millionaires and never sell their picks! Take my money dude!

Without 5850s stake he would be betting air, like he's been doing for most of his "career".

Not all touts are scammers.

Therefore, babs is not a scammer.

That's the kind of outside the box, critical thinking approach this thread needs.

Dude, wtf are you babbling about? I never said this guy didn't make money from selling picks. Plenty of fraudsters and cons have made millions. I never offered any wager on that.

I never said it wasn't possible to be a scammer. In fact I said the opposite - I said anyone with no integrity and sales skills can sell questionable services or items to naive fools.

There might be extreme cases where profitable handicappers could give out picks selectively for $$. Not applicable to Babs since he's a historic loser betting air or 2 figure sums per game. So yeah, any tout using Babs' methods is attempting to mislead morons into thinking he's an actual winner. There's a lot of dumb people, and plenty more opportunists to take the dumb money.

who cares, what bags is or isnt. Lets just get back to making fun of him as we watch him fail. Does that make us bad people? meh probably given his mental handicaps, but hes a vile little runt whos completely earned it, so its terribly satisfying.

Why would the Feb 1st results be included? It says right on the alltime results page "This page was born on Feb 2nd, and all picks are included from this day going forward" It has to start somewhere, and that is where it started.

If your argument was logical, we would have not included the Feb 2nd results either! It was a losing day, 1-2. It was a -0.95 unit day. It is included in the results.

If what you are saying is accurate, the tracking would simply start on Feb 3rd, the first winning day, and we would have edited the page to say that. But we aren't scammers or trying to run anything false here. We are just providing a service to voluntary customers.

In fact, I have no way to know the results before Feb 2nd, because that is the day I started getting CC'ed emails that were also going to subscribers. For all I know, the picks on pickmonitor or whatever 3rd party tracking site are incorrect. I don't know anything about 3rd party tracking, because I have not personally looked at anything except my emails.

All I know is that every email sent to subcribers with a 1 unit pick, from Feb 2nd to the present day, is included in the alltime archive. And the alltime archive contains ONLY those picks sent to subscribers pre-game. You don't have to believe me, but those are the facts.

Because the site was live well before that. Lol. He even tweeted it.

You're prob right.

5850,

No need to keep astroturfing for Babs. He's not a unicorn. He looks like, swims like, and quacks like a duck. He's a duck.

ADR,
You're either a liar or a fool

5850,

lol. I mean come on. A lot of what you say has merit, but looool stick to defending bags on the ground its not nice to make fun of idiots and its unseemly to pile on him the way we do, not about him not being a shady pos, cuz you look stupid trying to argue otherwise.

Thank you. That's all I wanted you to admit. Nothing else matters.

The rest is simply a matter of semantics over the definition of "extreme" "profitable" and "selectively".

I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors, sincerely.

5850s,

Who do you think did 9/11?

Dog Runner showed himself to the dog door and self banned. Can't blame him, tough to argue against facts

In before that extract of mullen's post is used as a testimonial on bags' site.

gregorio,

please rename the self-ban thread in ATF "Dog Door"

I bet he's not even a real captain.

or a real doctor!

I'm glad to see he learned to shut that crevice of his.

As much as his site sucks on a phone, his blog is just about perfect: no popups, ads, social media buttons, floating menu or other bs, or images and videos that take forever to finish loading. I wish every mobile site was like that. To point out that the site's unreadable on a computer and that there's no way to get to his professional webpage from the blog would just be nit-picking.

Nope

http://www.nimadamus.com looks great on an iphone.