Howard,

That's just sad. Honestly.

He simply comes off as not bright at all in those emails.

How can one argue with the likes of the milk carton captain calling him an idiot when you read that poorly written drivel?

His poor parents must be so disappointed.

BTW, Babs, you're website is still horrible. It's a step up from the 1990s angelfire look, but why are you using a framework from 2009?

Gmlaw is right

GM,

What would admo be judging unfairly if all he did were post facts on such a website?

The difference between him being delusional about his capping ability itt vs trying to deceive people into paying him money is a clear difference in behavior and clear justification for people to have a different opinion on him being exposed.

lol, I just checked my trash folder to see if I had any ranty emails from beast like howard He just sent me an email from a different email address, but that is still linked to his normal email, and has his real name attached to it. You know the two most obvious ways one would filter things to the trash bin, and the first sentence is "Im posting this email to you from a different email because I wanted to make sure you see it,"

It looked a lot more professional when it had that sweet photo of Steph Curry

Alobar,

It always make me sad seeing the special bond between you and babs deteriorated to such levels.

Yes, he hurt you, but that doesn't erase what you once had.

Maybe someday in the future you'll be able to see past the pain and begin rebuilding the special connection you once shared.

El D,

well there was a bunch of vile nasty emails, but the last one was an apology (Im sure it had nothing to do with the fact he was asking for help in it), so maybe hes really changed!!

This doesn't sound like an appreciation thread anymore

Glad you're giving him another chance. I eagerly await his new account.

I think it's telling the two posters most vigorously arguing against a babsite are Euro.

I agree that criminal consequences should be a result of a criminal law process, but we're not talking criminal consequences. In the US, the truth is an absolute defense against libel, and therefore a website laying out the facts of babs' behavior is well within the bounds of both criminal and civil statute.

I'd love to hear some suggestions.

That's interesting. As a properly myopic USA #1er I did assume that criminal records were permanent everywhere. As much as I will say that our criminal justice system has massive flaws, I'm pretty sure (at least subject to further convincing) that I like criminal records being forever and also having transparent public records. While I think that people can drastically change, I draw a distinction between being a basically changed person and necessarily being SO changed that the person no longer has the capacity to backslide. Basically, an ex-con who comes off like a good reform story still seems to me to be more likely to reoffend than the average good guy would be to commit a first offense. But I'm talking intuitively and with no empirical evidence.

Well..."let him be prosecuted"...surely you wouldn't favor someone from this site reporting him to the proper authorities and seeing what they do with it. So assuming that I'm right about that, I'm not sure what "let him be prosecuted" functionally means.

It's fair to say that he hasn't been convicted, but the damage between "some rando on the internet says this about you" and "this court says this about you" is also significantly different too. And if people say things about him that aren't true and are actually damaging, he does have remedies available that are not available to repair one's image after a criminal conviction.

Well, as sort of covered in those posts with Alobar above:
1. For the fifth time or so, I feel the need to assert that "think it's morally justifiable" and "want to see it happen" shouldn't be conflated, since it seems like that's what you're doing.
2. You are correct that there is no particular outrage, and reactions against him are more about catharsis since he's an inarguably terrible person.

cf. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=5344

I suppose I should have abstained from "inarguably," but the unspoken argument that I'm still pretty sure some hold but most seem to not want to say out loud is that they think that Babs lacks the basic mental capacity to be a bad person.

I do see his stupidity as a mitigating point in his favor when assessing his character, but far from a dispositive one that wipes all counter-evidence out.

I recognize that everything the beast does is horrible but somehow I can't get mad at him. I guess I just consider him too broken

El Oh El of course a beast understands why he is forced to regress to his abusive posting style because people are mean to him

El D, I believe that Ridiculous is one of my middle names, but I would need to look it up to be sure!

My favorite iteration of beast is the cycle where he "gets serious" and puts his cappin' hat on for reals. This is all we're seeing, let it collapse organically imo

And let's be honest I'm kind of proud of him because it looks like he finally took some advice here, he removed the money aspect entirely out of his gambling and now he makes money making play money plays. Good for him

I'll offer to take this on for the good of everyone.

Larry,
I think you'd make a fine Beastkeeper

A Beast will bite off the leash like a rabid raccoon.

I agree with this FWIW, and on balance I would probably prefer not to see the website idea happen.

Not to beat a dead horse here but this was pretty terrible Tyler.

That statement is so incredibly idiotic it's hard to believe it's not a troll.

I know tyler enjoys playing up that clueless old man persona every now and then, but yeah it kinda defies belief.