You are kidding yourselves if you think beast isn't getting these calls regularly from every credit card or line of credit he's not paying back. They don't do websites though.

Babs, if you don't have the money to pay, why not just say that? Why do you keep digging yourself into a deeper hole?

would have been great to respond with *you're. might have sent him right into the stratosphere.

Bless your heart, still trying to help him.

It could be like the Seinfeld finale: All your favorite faces.

If would be epic - everyone wearing name badges and Persian garb...

Def paying the soup Nazi to show up and act like he was part of the group of villains the whole time!

What a ****show.

I dont think I would pay here. not sure that admo really has a legal leg to stand on. seems pretty sketchy, the whole buying debt and threatening things.

He simply should have paid or not paid. Paying most and then not paying the last bit is the dumbest possible combination available.

I'm guessing it won't be tough for Admo to get a judgement, but it might be tough for him to enforce the judgement, i.e., actually get paid.

Would it be illegal to rent a billboard with Babs' face talking about rape? Maybe turn it into a PSA thing for women.

Are suggesting that debt can't be bought and sold?

ya seems this way.

Can illegal gambling debt be bought and sold? what about drug debt? what means are legal ways to extract the debt? admo isnt breaking legs but he is threatening some sort of harm.

and regardless of the legality or feasibility of "tbuying and selling debt", I personally would take my chances with not paying him if I was babs. ofc, I wouldnt get in this situation in the first place.

As long as Admo isn't making stuff up, any harm that comes as a result of the web site is entirely on Nima Jooyandeh, scammer and thief.

If ultimately the website is what Nima has issue with, not the validity of the debt owed, then the judgement is fairly irrelevant. Nima’s case would be with the validity and legality of the website.

Nima seems to believe that the website is built on lies, libel and falsehoods. If this is true then he could compel the court to have the website taken down immediately and a retraction/correction put in its place. However if the website is legal to stand as is, Nima doesn’t have any case whatsoever as the website isn’t being used as leverage to get the debt paid: Admo was paid to put up the site by Fubs and it’s staying up according to Admo regardless if Nima pays or not.

In regards to the threats of putting signs up in the condo community with his face on them: I’m not sure Nima didn’t threaten worse when he was collecting on debts and I’m sure admo has done far more due diligence to ensure the debt was in fact legit.

So if you’re taking issue with this all being slimy business you’re talking about a private debt buyer buying the debt of a total scumbag, thief and scammer... there is little nobility to be found here.

If they go to court (pleaser God), and Admo win, of course, All he gets is a judgement which is the same as an IOU from babs. Big deal - but I'll be there dressed as George's dad..

In America, truth is a defense against libel.

Are you considering Admo uniquely as the collector in this hypothetical? I don't know him, but he's like Batman to the poker world, and seems to take his role very seriously.

Nat - Why muse that the website could be illegal? Each bullet point traces directly to forum posts in his name.

I’m not. I’m trying to figure out what Victor finds illegal since he’s conceding that the debt buying and collection method is not illegal. Read victors post and then mine in line and see if it still feels like I’m suggesting the website could be illegal vs. explain to Victor that such a scenario would be Nimas only potential grounds for a legal cause against Admo (clearly he has none but that would be his only possible avenue)

How much does a dollar's worth of babs debt set you back these days Admo?

I haven’t tried to research the issue, but I would imagine that a billboard with Nima’s face on it (or telephone-pole flyers etc.) is perfectly legal so long as any statements made on it are true. There is nothing libelous about repeating someone’s statements accurately, and Nima made all of the statements in question on a public forum already.

I’ve no idea if gambling debts as such are enforceable in California. Loan agreements are certainly enforceable and transferable to at least some degree. Interesting legal question as to whether Nima’s statement “if I don’t pay by [date] you can sell the debt” creates an enforceable right to sell the debt. I’m no expert on commercial financial transactions but I can see arguments both ways here.

But figuring this out will require a lawyer that Nima can’t afford. I’m sure there are many among us that could figure out these issues pretty quickly, but Nima, sadly, isn’t among them.

I’ll definitely attend any court date.

This is not a gambling debt. It's a separate three year old loan agreement with a 2+2'er (not Fubster) that funded one of Babs' hammer the books fantasies. The loan contract was explicit and the term sheet was lengthy. Babs defaulted infinite times, offering infinite excuses.

Nima has explicitly, in writing, agreed to:

• Selling this loan to any third party if he defaults
• Posting texts, emails, and PMs publicly
• Building a website about him
• Contacting his family
• Contacting law enforcement
• Contacting 'anybody you want'
• Doing 'anything you need to'

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I'm not Batman I just hate scammers and am OK shining light on them. Add in labor and I'm a huge lifetime loser. Story for another time but when I was new to live poker I spent eight months outing Puggy Pearson for shorting me $600 when he paid off a river bet with a light 10K wrap. Todd Brunson told me Puggy hustled guys like this until the day he died. I dunno, maybe this doesn't happen in a Three Billboards world?

ps. rubbrband is the real-life collections Batman and I for one am down for some quality story time.

the plot thickens

Endless assumptions