So you consider 'problematic gambling' to mean ... losing at gambling? Isn't that an absurd definition that will cover just about all gambling?

It's too common for able minded people to undersell mental illness or how affected someone is by it. It's very cool to see a discussion, even if the expected thought will be incomplete if not mostly wrong... I just wonder if the science is considered basic or not by such actors. It's a super difficult thought exercise to comprehend being mentally sick if not having experienced it, or lived around it.

Admo will probably uncover something we hadn't seen before, like Babs being arrested or something 🤷

Note that the timeline doesn't support the theory that Nima only stole from Fub because he gambled his way into trouble. The Sterling alias was a pre-planned scam. This isn't a problem gambler falling into crime. This is a criminal who happens to gamble.

I thought everyone knew Nima's been in prison.

I think Nima has admitted many times that he has a serious gambling problem. Why isn’t that the end of the discussion?

Wrecking your credit, hurting friends and family is problem gambling. Then there is commuting multiple felonies to steal tens of thousands of dollars to gamble with that takes it to the next level. What mental illness do you have to be able to ignore this?

How can we believe him though?

Bet the over on other outstanding debt.

HT, stop gnawing on yourself, although I think that it is cute when you kind of unexpectedly transform from you usual calm to kicking babs.

It is difference between assuming good in people and plain not-executing due diligence in a business transaction.

He was arrested in Vegas for trespassing.

Hahahahaha 10/10

Good post Lapka.

Babs, Don't give these penetrates a chance to speculate, what happened? Did you refuse to leave a casino after you busted? Trying to sleep in the trailer park camp for free again?

They backed him off while he was gaping a keno slot machine and he refused to leave

Probably trespassing into some girls house he just dropped off after an Uber trip.

Dwight Clarke had him removed.

Nope.

Howard is taking the correct approach here imo.

To at least some small degree Howard's reputation is tarnished by being a Babs sympathizer/white knight for so long, and due to his past dealings with Nima. I suspect this upsets him, as well as feeling betrayed.

That being said, it's clear Howard's a good person and appears to be owning up to his long term lapse in judgement. So, good for him.




Let's move on.

rubbr,

I agree totally with you re: warnings, and you made some good points re: making things crystal clear to anyone who happens to stumble upon these threads.

However, Fubster was a participant at the end of this thread where there was tons of discussion of babs' shadiness and history during the period Fubs was in the thread, culminating in the banning and warning in the thread.


Here's LKJ's reaction to Fubs in the thread. He could not even imagine Fubs was being sincere (it makes more sense now that we know Fubs was trying to get something from babs):


I don't think Fubs was necessarily a hapless idiot. I do think he made a risk assessment and decided the risk was worth what he could get from babs in terms of accounts. Every sports bettor I know, live or online, has had bookies/runners/etc stiff/steal, it's a cost of doing business. You deal with scumbags to mask your identity and get more action, sometimes you get burned. Fubs clearly knows the gambling world very well. He has no excuse for not knowing exactly what kind of risk babs posed. But that doesn't make Fubs deserve to be stolen from, and that's why I and others pushed to help get this situation resolved. Hell, I was even going to front Fubs the money he was owed had Babs just taken my offer - one where I even made making things right with Fubs a condition of the offer.

You're using all kinds of strawman arguments.

Gregorio didn't state that, nor did I state that "science is stupid".

These fallacies aren't helping your point.

Setting aside his gambling, and foregoing the diagnostic checklists of the DSM since someone complained about checklists earlier, let's look at the characteristics of some personality disorders.

Narcissistic PD (which Booker Wolfbox has brought up a few times) Does the bolded seem familiar to anyone else?

How about Anti-Social PD. Sure he doesn't torture animals, but https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/...ers-cluster-b/

Neil,

Your position implies that monetary wealth is the primary, if not only, measure of a successful life. Pretty pathetic.

He might have something on Axis II (or whatever they're calling it now), but that's an entirely different thing from this whole "Gambling addiction" scam.

That's the line he's trying to sell his parents: "I gambled too much, and one thing led to another." It's horse hockey.

Pathalocical Liar, pathological gambler...