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For folks newly using DoorDash, tip in cash instead of on the app. If you don't have cash, still don't bother with the in-app tip.

Basically DoorDash steals small to medium tips from the driver. It's a longer story than that but that's what the net effect is.

I would worry about the driver messing with my food if he saw on the order slip I stiffed him on the tip

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01-29-2019 , 05:11 PM

#48927

BiiiiigChips

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Originally Posted by Spin2Win

Granted I remember the burger quality being a lot better but I also remember the rest of the sandwich was just a copycat of the McD cheeseburger/quarter pounder

LMAO! Wtf did you order? This what a standard INO dressed burger looks like with no substitutions. Looks and taste nothing like a McDs cheeseburger or QPC. Are you sure it's INO you are remembering?

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01-29-2019 , 05:31 PM

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emmpee

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Originally Posted by Spin2Win

I would worry about the driver messing with my food if he saw on the order slip I stiffed him on the tip

They don't see the tip amount. They just see a "guaranteed" total amount combining delivery fee + tip. So if you tip big in the app, they may notice the larger guaranteed minimum, but standard-ish tips can't be detected.

Here are three scenarios for the same $20 DoorDash order from Wendy's.

Scenario #1: You enter a $0 tip on the app.

The driver is told the guaranteed minimum payout for the order is $6.00. (Approximate amount but close enough)
When the dropoff is complete, DoorDash pays the driver $6.00 ($6 from DoorDash and $0 from you).

Scenario #2: You enter a $4 tip on the app.

The driver is told the guaranteed minimum payout for the order is $6.00.
When the dropoff is complete, DoorDash pays the driver $6.00 ($2 from DoorDash and $4 from you).

Scenario #3: You enter a $10 tip on the app.

The driver is told the guaranteed minimum payout for the order is $11.00.
When the dropoff is complete, DoorDash pays the driver $11.00 ($1 from DoorDash and $10 from you).

DoorDash sells this as a "guarantee" so the driver doesn't take a hit from bad tippers, but it's basically stealing tips IMO.

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01-29-2019 , 05:43 PM

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gamboneee

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is the $6 fee included on the buyers price? regardless of tip? or is it less than 6 and sometimes the company pays extra to the driver?

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01-29-2019 , 05:49 PM

#48930

emmpee

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Originally Posted by gamboneee

is the $6 fee included on the buyers price? regardless of tip? or is it less than 6 and sometimes the company pays extra to the driver?

It's best to think of the buyer side and driver side as disconnected.

Buyer side, you pay delivery fee (varies by restaurant, $0-$4.99?) plus service fee (10% i think?) plus optional tip.

Driver side, driver gets a different "delivery fee" from DoorDash plus your tip. The driver's "delivery fee" is nebulous because they'll drop it as low as $1 and then use your tip to cover the driver's guaranteed amount.

Anyway, I know this is getting in the weeds, but my point is basically, if you've got cash, give the guy cash rather than tip in the app. It works out better for them, and not just in the usual tax evasion way.

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01-29-2019 , 06:22 PM

#48931

sassyfrassy

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

surprised none of you mother****ers talk about PANDA EXPRESS here. not enough talk.

its just solid, great spot to go to, I would go 2-3x a week if I had on near me. great price usually and friendly staff usually as well. only downside is the calories are massive if you care about that

I don't have the FF expertise as others in this thread, but, Panda Express is my airport go to. It is usually quick and tasty, but, I don't play airplane bathroom roulette.

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01-29-2019 , 06:42 PM

#48932

kerowo

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,190

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Originally Posted by master3004

I really hate the trend of boneless "wings." Theyre essentially chicken nuggets for grown ups. If you want wings, grow up and gnaw some meat off a bone damnit.

It's good to have the option. I don't like how fussy wings are and prefer easier prey, so well sauced nuggets are fine for me.

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01-29-2019 , 06:46 PM

#48933

Bighurt52235

I was born to eat hamburgers

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24,218

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Originally Posted by Spin2Win

Granted I remember the burger quality being a lot better but I also remember the rest of the sandwich was just a copycat of the McD cheeseburger/quarter pounder

This is a terrible take.

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01-29-2019 , 07:12 PM

#48934

Rapini

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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235

This is a terrible take.

Agreed. New McDonald's QPC is much better.

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01-29-2019 , 07:23 PM

#48935

Bighurt52235

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Originally Posted by Rapini

Agreed. New McDonald's QPC is much better.

Regardless of your opinion on which is better, theyre not constructed remotely similar.

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01-29-2019 , 07:24 PM

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SirOsis

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Originally Posted by master3004

I think for me its the bastardization of the word "wing" as a good chicken wing with the roght amount of meat, crunch, and delicious sauce is one of the worlds most perfect foods.

And who wants "wings" that are just homogenous, bland meat throughout? Real wings have such variety in the anatomy, some bites are meaty, some have proper gristle, some with a mix of wonderfully crisp skin and meat. We are eating animals, people. I like my wings diverse and my punctuation ambiguous.

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01-29-2019 , 07:33 PM

#48937

27offsuit

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I agree the QPC is salty af. Much like myself, but still.

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01-29-2019 , 07:39 PM

#48938

Hoagie

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Originally Posted by SirOsis

Boneless wings are simply a sauce vehicle. Not my bag but I can see it’s purpose. The craggy breading holds way more sauce.

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01-29-2019 , 07:41 PM

#48939

pig4bill

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Originally Posted by gamboneee

with all the options at 5guys its basically the subway of burgers

Isn't that good, especially considering the price and I've never seen one with a drive-thru.

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01-29-2019 , 07:48 PM

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pig4bill

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Originally Posted by BiiiiigChips

There is nothing fancy about INO but their quality for a fast food burger is really high and absolutely crushes anything you're gonna get from McDs in quality and value. Buns baked daily and delivered. Meat for the patties is ground daily and delivered. Everything is fresh and made to order. That kind of attention to detail and quality makes a huge difference with something like a burger.

Except their fries suck. They're fresh, but they still suck.

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01-29-2019 , 07:50 PM

#48941

br3nt00

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That door dash tipping scam is complete bull ****

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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01-29-2019 , 07:51 PM

#48942

BiiiiigChips

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

Except their fries suck. They're fresh, but they still suck.

Yeah the fries have a lot of variance. I do think there is a sweet spot where they are actually great but unfortunately it only gets hit 1/10 times. Look at the bright side though. If you don't like the fries that just leaves room for another double double.

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01-29-2019 , 07:55 PM

#48943

27offsuit

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If I ever Dash, I must use cash.

Spoiler:

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01-29-2019 , 07:57 PM

#48944

pig4bill

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Originally Posted by Jiggymike

My coworkers ordered Pizza Hut so while i usually avoid it I decided to get in on some pizza and boneless wings. Both things were better than expected and the wing sauce was especially tasty and also pretty spicy. I still probably wouldn’t order it on my own but it’s certainly edible in a pinch. Think the pizza was better than Little Caesers, worse than Dominos or Papa Johns but still ok.

Pizza Hut used to have really good wing sauce but changed their recipe about 5 years ago. It's really mediocre now. The last time I got their boneless "wings" it didn't taste remotely like chicken, lord knows what it was. Maybe it was coyote, there have been lots of them around lately.

The local Little Squeezers has much better wings, but they are tiny and the place doesn't have a drive-thru.

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01-29-2019 , 08:00 PM

#48945

gamboneee

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Originally Posted by emmpee

my question was more, do they get a min flat fee gtd, even with a $0 tip. does that come out of companies pocket or buyers. i get the rest, and how tipping in cash is better. youd be surprised how many people dont tip at all

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Originally Posted by pig4bill

Isn't that good, especially considering the price and I've never seen one with a drive-thru.

yeah that is, but that wasnt my point. people complaining about $11 subway and $11 5guys. adding all those options at mcds would end up costing $11 too

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01-29-2019 , 08:03 PM

#48946

Spin2Win

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Originally Posted by BiiiiigChips

LMAO! Wtf did you order? This what a standard INO dressed burger looks like with no substitutions. Looks and taste nothing like a McDs cheeseburger or QPC. Are you sure it's INO you are remembering?

IIRC I ate there a few times in Vegas 6 years ago and just got the normal cheeseburger. I guess I'm remembering wrong. I remember ketchup and mustard rather than that sauce and no tomato or lettuce and chopped rather than whole onion. Maybe what I'm remembering is that there was a lot of hype but I didn't find it a whole lot better than the typical fast food place a la McD.

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01-29-2019 , 08:05 PM

#48947

Spin2Win

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Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 360

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Originally Posted by emmpee

The driver is told the guaranteed minimum payout for the order is $6.00. (Approximate amount but close enough)
When the dropoff is complete, DoorDash pays the driver $6.00 ($6 from DoorDash and $0 from you).

Scenario #2: You enter a $4 tip on the app.

The driver is told the guaranteed minimum payout for the order is $6.00.
When the dropoff is complete, DoorDash pays the driver $6.00 ($2 from DoorDash and $4 from you).

Scenario #3: You enter a $10 tip on the app.

The driver is told the guaranteed minimum payout for the order is $11.00.
When the dropoff is complete, DoorDash pays the driver $11.00 ($1 from DoorDash and $10 from you).

DoorDash sells this as a "guarantee" so the driver doesn't take a hit from bad tippers, but it's basically stealing tips IMO.

Hmmm I guess I'm going to stop tipping on Doordash, at least on the app. Is Grubhub the same?

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01-29-2019 , 08:05 PM

#48948

pig4bill

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I can't imagine using Doordash or Uberfood, or whatever, unless the guy bringing it to me is an employee for the restaurant. They don't have local food worker licenses or training or certification or whatever. I would have to be really falling down drunk or have an injury where I couldn't drive to use a service like that.

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01-29-2019 , 08:06 PM

#48949

BiiiiigChips

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Originally Posted by Spin2Win

Haha, yeah man I don't know what you had. Next time you're in Vegas give it another whirl. Just order a double double exactly how it comes.

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01-29-2019 , 08:09 PM

#48950

pig4bill

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Originally Posted by Spin2Win

It sounds like you went to some place other than In N Out, because that pic is how they've been doing their standard burger for a lot more than 6 years.

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