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Re: The Staircase
How do the guys that produced the documentary actually make money? Do they even make money or do they do this as a hobby? Just curious as this has taken 16-17 years to produce all in all would it really be worth their time?

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Micheal says to his lawyer and the PI "I told you It would be a good thing to have this filmed" Pretty sure the filmmakers were paid by him to do the actual filming, and they also divvy up any distribution rights fees they got over the years.

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06-17-2018 , 01:47 PM

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Emanresu

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If they were paid by him it doesn't really make a lot of sense for the defense to give them interviews etc as they would surely make the documentary biased on his side otherwise what would be the point in paying them to make it?

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06-18-2018 , 07:31 AM

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3fiveofdiamonds

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Originally Posted by Emanresu

It came out 14 years ago (sans the newer updates). I watched it when it first came in out in the USA on the Sundance channel. Before that it aired on BBC.

The guy who made this miniseries previously did Murder on a Sunday Morning which won an Oscar for best documentary.

I'm glad someone linked that Reddit post bc after I first watched it in 2004, I felt weird about the verdict until I looked online for information and then became pissed on how it was edited to make the viewer uneasy about the verdict by leaving out many damning pieces of evidence that was presented at trial.

A few days ago it came out that Michael Peterson was banging the editor.

https://www.newsobserver.com/enterta...213085459.html

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06-18-2018 , 09:00 AM

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brandoncla

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Originally Posted by 3fiveofdiamonds

Wow, lol female editor got's problems. Feel like I get duped by the editing and portrayal almost every time on these things going in blind. Staircase and MaM bias towards not guilty got me (even though a lot of reasonable doubt and prosecution misconduct there). Jinx bias towards guilty, seems strong, but haven't looked into it.

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06-18-2018 , 06:46 PM

#18906

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Originally Posted by bobhalford

Finally got around to finish binge watching Halt and Catch Fire. I don't seem to find a lot of shows I really like so I felt pretty sad when I reached the end of this one. I've got Better Call Saul to finish watching and then I'm out of ideas.

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

The well written well acted drama is hard to find these days with all the dragons and robots running amok.

I’m drawing a blank on recommendations. Amerikans was pretty awesome and just wrapped.

Mad men is a standard.

Vikings is actually well written and well acted.

Idk....

Deadwood of course if you never watched it, and are willing to be upset it was cancelled...

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I loved Justified. It was even better since I live in Appalachia near where it is fictionally located. It is very very well done, a little more on the ‘action’ side than drama. Definitely well written and acted.

You have lots of great shows to watch. Enjoy!

have you seen Ozark?

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06-18-2018 , 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88

have you seen Ozark?

I did not finish the first episode. I think there were too many other shows at the same time, and Ozark was just ‘meh’.

Maybe I should give it a shot.

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06-18-2018 , 07:23 PM

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Ozark did a fine job filling in for the lack of brutal crime shows on TV. Its better when thought of a dark comedy. I loved it. Can't wait for season 2.

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06-19-2018 , 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DC11GTR

Ozark did a fine job filling in for the lack of brutal crime shows on TV. Its better when thought of a dark comedy. I loved it. Can't wait for season 2.

Enjoyed Ozark well enough. I wouldn’t necessarily call it great, but it contains a horrible use of deus ex machina at one point.

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06-19-2018 , 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by brandoncla

I have no question Candace Zamperini is a dumbass insufferable beeeyotch

if you take that reddit post as the gospel, you d prolly be even more pissed off then her potentially

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Originally Posted by DC11GTR

Ozark did a fine job filling in for the lack of brutal crime shows on TV. Its better when thought of a dark comedy. I loved it. Can't wait for season 2.

yeah it was really good, looking forward to s2

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06-19-2018 , 08:34 AM

#18911

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

if you take that reddit post as the gospel, you d prolly be even more pissed off then her potentially

yeah it was really good, looking forward to s2

Yeah... I don't take that reddit post as gospel either, along with the doc, it's just a fascinating case with bullet points for both sides.

Ozark was good, I like Bateman tho.

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06-19-2018 , 09:07 PM

#18912

Emanresu

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Bates motel worth a watch?

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06-19-2018 , 09:10 PM

#18913

RunDownHouse.

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Originally Posted by brandoncla

Jinx bias towards guilty, seems strong, but haven't looked into it.

Let's just say it's kind of incredible what they managed to get on record.

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06-19-2018 , 09:32 PM

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Jinx is the GOAT documentary, for anything to be better would need the filmmaker to actually solve the crime and catch the perp in a high speed chase while wearing a gopro bodycam.

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06-19-2018 , 11:16 PM

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Umcle Diddler

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Originally Posted by Emanresu

Bates motel worth a watch?

The 1st few seasons were decent, but the final season was so terrible I gave up about 4 episodes in.

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06-19-2018 , 11:36 PM

#18916

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I'm 5 episodes into The Staircase but just stopped watching. I can understand why people would enjoy it but I found nearly everyone in it insufferable. Him, his ex wife, the prosecutor. Urgh I hate them all so had nobody to root for. Also it gets a very high rating and I just was pretty underwhelmed by it. Soooo slow. I actually skipped everyone's posts about it as I don't want to even know if he was found guilty, that's how annoying the show was for me. Also it just reinforced what an unfair system the legal process is for poor people. Blah.

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06-19-2018 , 11:51 PM

#18917

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Originally Posted by REDeYeS88

have you seen Ozark?

Hey, I am liking Ozark. Thanks.

It must have just been overlooked. I get that it is a generally implausible scenario, and that there will be some equally unlikely turns in the story. I’m on episode 3.

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06-20-2018 , 09:55 PM

#18918

Umcle Diddler

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The Ken Burns Vietnam Doc was just added today.

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06-20-2018 , 10:01 PM

#18919

DC11GTR

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I would love to watch that again for the first time!!

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06-20-2018 , 10:02 PM

#18920

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I started that when it was on PBS or w/e it was and liked what I saw. I’ll def pick it back up here.

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06-21-2018 , 01:00 AM

#18921

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I was watching that on the PBS site but couldn't get access to parts 8+.

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06-21-2018 , 01:19 AM

#18922

the pleasure

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

Jinx is the GOAT documentary, for anything to be better would need the filmmaker to actually solve the crime and catch the perp in a high speed chase while wearing a gopro bodycam.

yeah. I undeerstand why the director steered toward guilty. with MaM and Staircase you can see things online actually giving out more informtation. hwoever in roberts case, nobody , even internet detectives have been able to make a case for defending him other than strong coincidence.

JINX is amust watch if u like MaM been saying it for 2 years now to people ITT

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06-21-2018 , 01:20 AM

#18923

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Originally Posted by robert_utk

Jinx is the GOAT documentary, for anything to be better would need the filmmaker to actually solve the crime and catch the perp in a high speed chase while wearing a gopro bodycam.

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Originally Posted by Rexx14

i don tmind true crime series that do a case over a trial. i want to see more personallly

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06-21-2018 , 04:26 AM

#18924

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Originally Posted by the pleasure

JINX is amust watch

thisssss

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06-21-2018 , 09:30 AM

#18925

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Amazon Prime currently streams Thief with James Caan.

Michael Mann's first movie; I love me some Michael Mann (let's pretend Blackhat didn't happen, tho).

Highly recommended if you haven't seen before.

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