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02-01-2018 , 09:49 AM
now that would have been interesting

i thought arkangel, crocodile, and metalhead were all just bad. maybe not in the grand scope of tv but they are easily bottom 5 black mirror episodes. waldo moment is the only one that is worse imo

arkangel was just nonsensical plot
crocodile the main character had no redeeming value and the technology served no purpose
metalhead gave you nothing to think about
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02-01-2018 , 10:24 AM
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Yeh I suppose I can see what they got because I have no idea. Never watched anything on there before
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02-01-2018 , 01:33 PM
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Not sure why it's being suggested the AI doesn't have an objective. Well duh, of course it knows its objective in the game. It knows the rules, the objective, strategies to win, all of it. And then add the learning aspect, and you have an amazing AI achievement in being able to compete with the best at a game more complicated than chess. Loved this doc.
My favorite part was that

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it advanced its knowledge to the point it made a move that had experts scratching their heads, "wtf is that move? Alphago must have made a mistake" and it turns out that no, it's playing a strategy it created, that no one else had conceived before. And it was proven correct, to the point at the end the experts are saying Alphago caused them to view the game in ways they never had before.
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02-01-2018 , 06:07 PM
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Really enjoyed La Mante. Great Silence of the Lambs vibe. Def recommended.
I started watching it. First ep was hard to get through. The usual cop pulls up at the crime scene: that's supposed to be so gory you have the one cop running from the crime scene vomiting. Then the investigator is poking at what appears to be a rubber corpse.

Seems to be getting good reviews, so I'll stick with it.

Stephen King: "I'm enjoying LA MANTE (Netflix). It is surveying previously unexplored realms of gruesomeness." (edited out spoilers)
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02-01-2018 , 10:35 PM
kinda psyched for Altered Carbon
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02-02-2018 , 03:55 AM
Dallas Buyer's Club 3.5/5

Based loosely off the story of a dude in Texas who is given 30 days to live (Aids). He opens up a underground pharmacy where people with Aids can get alternative medication. He uses the meds too and lives much longer. He flies around the world for meds and is harassed by the FDA and the IRS.

The Summit 3.5/5

Technically it's not a great film, but I find tragic mountain climbing **** intriguing. (Watched various docs on YT beforehand, including Touching the Void. Highly recommend.) This documentary uses real footage/dramatized footage and tells the story of the worst tragedy in history of K2.
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02-02-2018 , 04:04 AM
Dallas buyer clubs is a great story with great performances from all the casting. Your rating is hard
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02-02-2018 , 04:08 AM
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Dallas buyer clubs is a great story with great performances from all the casting. Your rating is hard
I do agree with that. I'm a bit surprised it hadn't been mentioned itt.

4/5
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02-02-2018 , 04:16 AM
Ocean's Eleven, Ocean's Thirteen, Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story, Hurt Locker, and Goodfellas added today Feb 1
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02-02-2018 , 04:17 AM
The movie is pretty old news now. I'm a bit biased since my mum's cousin caught hiv from contaminated blood scandal in france around this time(in the movie) and had to deal with crap treatments like in the movie.
I'm pretty sure Matthew M(won't bother trying to spell it) never physically recovered from that role.
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02-02-2018 , 04:49 AM
Altered Carbon is up.
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02-02-2018 , 04:49 AM
Unrest (documentary) 4/5

The creator of the film is diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. She and many others are bedridden with this condition. Right now there's no cure and many people are misdiagnosed and treated badly by hospitals and even family. Basically, it happens mostly in females, they get the flu and suddenly don't have the energy to get out of bed. She documents herself and others trying to deal with this condition.

I'll have to admit this one is hard to watch.
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02-02-2018 , 09:18 AM
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My favorite part was that

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it advanced its knowledge to the point it made a move that had experts scratching their heads, "wtf is that move? Alphago must have made a mistake" and it turns out that no, it's playing a strategy it created, that no one else had conceived before. And it was proven correct, to the point at the end the experts are saying Alphago caused them to view the game in ways they never had before.
I found it kind of hard to believe that in thousands of years of playing the game no one had realized that sometimes you'll increase your chances of winning by playing to win by 1 point instead of 20 (which I think is what they were saying ag taught them).

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02-02-2018 , 09:44 AM
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kinda psyched for Altered Carbon
me too
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02-02-2018 , 09:57 AM
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I found it kind of hard to believe that in thousands of years of playing the game no one had realized that sometimes you'll increase your chances of winning by playing to win by 1 point instead of 20 (which I think is what they were saying ag taught them).
I haven't watched the doc but I know Go and if that's what their "big" conclusion was, then they were almost surely dumbing something down for the audience... or there wasn't a conclusion and they just wanted to say something cool about the AI. Either way, I agree and I highly doubt they're psyched about that conclusion.
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02-02-2018 , 10:35 AM
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I found it kind of hard to believe that in thousands of years of playing the game no one had realized that sometimes you'll increase your chances of winning by playing to win by 1 point instead of 20 (which I think is what they were saying ag taught them).
Unless I'm remembering incorrectly this is not what they were saying. What they were saying was AlphaGo only cared about making the move that would statistically give it the best chance to win the game.Some of these moves looked odd and would sometimes cause AlphaGo to lose in weird amateurish looking ways but they were still the best moves.

If AG was in a position where it was going to lose the majority of the time it would aggressively try and change these odds, not sit back passively and hope the opponent made a mistake it could capitalize on. AGs ability to calculate these odds and run simulations to determine the best move is why it could make moves, such as the one we see in the doc, that a human just doesn't have the computing power to make.

"Drawing on its extensive training with millions upon millions of human moves, the machine actually calculates the probability that a human will make a particular play in the midst of a game. "That's how it guides the moves it considers," Silver says. For Move 37, the probability was one in ten thousand. In other words, AlphaGo knew this was not a move that a professional Go player would make.

But, drawing on all its other training with millions of moves generated by games with itself, it came to view Move 37 in a different way. It came to realize that, although no professional would play it, the move would likely prove quite successful. "It discovered this for itself," Silver says, "through its own process of introspection and analysis."

Is introspection the right word? You can be the judge. But Fan Hui was right. The move was inhuman. But it was also beautiful."
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02-02-2018 , 10:40 AM
I definitely remember it making the point about taking the line which gives it a 95% chance to win by 1 over an 80% chance to win by 20 a couple times.
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02-03-2018 , 12:42 AM
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02-03-2018 , 01:34 AM
Cool, Thanks.
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02-03-2018 , 04:49 PM
altered carbon did not hook me with ep 1. just found myself wondering "wtf is going on" the majority of the episode. will give it a shot to settle down in 2
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02-03-2018 , 06:35 PM
Script of first episode was weak but I guess it can improve after
Dialogues are awful and that one is a real bad sign imo.
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02-03-2018 , 06:48 PM
At one point in time it was pretty agreed upon that you need 4-8 episodes to give a show an actually fair shot. It's really tough these days with so many highly recommended options, but I'm probably going to do that with Altered Carbon since I'm so big on sci-fi.
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02-03-2018 , 06:56 PM
A test of 8 episodes out of 10 is courageous
First episode is super hard to finish.
I'll wait for more input but my guess is it will make sense 8 look like citizen kane
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02-03-2018 , 09:14 PM
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Script of first episode was weak but I guess it can improve after
Dialogues are awful and that one is a real bad sign imo.
Not feeling it at all in the first episode. Not sure if I will try another. Having characters speaking English then switching to subtitled gibberish and back to English makes absolutely no sense.

This seems like a big miss to me then again sci fi has to be really special for me to really enjoy it and this doesn't seem all that special.
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02-04-2018 , 09:30 AM
Yeah same feeling with Altered Carbon e1. I don't care about the main character nor the mystery at all. They did enough worldbuilding to hook me in for another episode or two though.
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