Yes sir Im am triggered as obviously many are by overt Racism
False claims about it dont help any side

You also claimed that those photos werent even Talledega so If you wanna troll me then fine Im open to it

Except when the stakes are this high. Dont post your Bull Crap and then claim innocence because someone gave you a heart felt response kitty kat

amazing turn of events.

So the noose was the garage door pull that has a hand loop tied at the bottom? And the loop has always been there? And all of the garages have that same loop?

Yes....I don't want to say they all have the same loop but a lot do. He should know that and his crew should as well.

I'm a noose fish, can someone explain to me if those things are super common and just hang everywhere, who was the person that allegedly "found" one and why all the drivers had the walkout then?

It's as if whoever runs the simulation doesn't even bother with logic anymore

Too perfect timing, victim outraged that their integrity is questioned, enjoying new found celebrity,desire to push forward an agenda. All coupled with a special brand of narcissism that it takes to be a celebrity and the knowledge that anyone who questions what happened will be attacked.

It's really unfortunate because the risk/ reward is so skewed.

Logic is out the window at this time. I'm sure quite a few of the drivers suspected what it probably was but who is going to come out and say anything? No one right now. They just chose to let it play itself out.

lol wp

Yeah only 15 feds and huge outcry, so yeah more than a big misunderstanding.

Last I checked though those clowns did hold a parade of confederate treason I surrender flags out front of the track.

What happened where Wallace shouldn't be offended that his integrity was questioned?

And this from a former driver's son:
"my hat is off to who put the noose at his car" the Sporting News reported. Skinner also wrote, "I wish they would of tied [the noose] to [Wallace] and drug him around the pits because he has single handedly destroyed what I grew up watching and cared about for 30 years now."

^^ This is sad. To be fair I think De Captain was referring to the Jussie Smollett incident and not Bubba. The Bubba incident was people in a heightened state over reacting to what they saw and not even directly from Bubba. Bubba by all accounts seems like a stand up guy, well respected by his peers. Nothing like that narcissist scumbag Jussie.

Also F that Skinner guy, if this means NASCAR loses the support of guys like that and at the same time can broaden there appeal by doing the right thing, good for them. If they upset that base than yay.

de captain already outed himself a couple months ago. OOT has a lot of deplorables.

I believe he was describing how he thought this situation mirrored the Smollett incident.

Yes stand up guy pushing some false agenda
Dude is complicit in one way or another

Maybe he is a pawn, maybe his is a rook

yet some still want to make him a victim like he is just some
legit "BUBBA" who doesnt understand the magnitude of the situation.

Yeah, probably right...

The link you posted earlier in the thread was actually illuminating because as far as I know that's the only picture of what the crew member saw. Was 100% a noose knot, not your standard loop, and not knowing it had previously been there, made total sense that people reacted the way they did.

Remember, it was Nascar themselves that came and saw this once it was reported and decided to call local authorities who then called FBI. Not the crew.

Total misunderstanding, and anyone comparing this to Jussie situation is outing themselves.

Um no...

I think he does understand the situation. He’s a guy who loves his sport and wants it to stop being associated with a flag that he perceives and lot perceive as representing racism against people like him.

What’s wrong with that?

I feel this poster is just standing up for how much the Confederacy cares about African American individuals, as well as all humans on this earth.

I, with the vast majority of North Americans, have never been privy to racism, bigotry, xenophobia, or any other form of discrimination from individuals involved with Nascar. If anything, Talladega and the other mainstay southern stops on the tour, have been completely supportive of promoting discussion and supporting the BLM movement. Tailgates, social media discussion and television interviews have all showcased everyone's dedication to the cause.

I suppose that's why they're always making left hand turns.

where was a flag involved in this rope incident?

Who says they support the Confederacy just because
they bring attention to false racism.

SO fake to make claims that one supports racism just because they want to point out a case when it doesnt exist...

The only people I saw not wanting to promote discussion were those who were hell bent on saying this was a real incident

Nowhere you might of missed the part about them banning the treason flag that supports racism and slavery.

People had to support those ideas through displays outside the track.

Are you actually 2020 Gary Busey?

Are you actually 2020 Hoffa who says F all to logic just to be right?

I am NOT a fan of flag
Just because it means something to others does not mean I auto judge people that raise it.

Man on my street had flag raised on a nearly full sized pole.
He is what some might call a redneck, yet has never treated this minority with disrespect

Well, the good thing is if many NASCAR fans actually think like this, it won't exist in a few years.

Ok cool maybe it means something very different to him than it does to the African American community or someone that’s black who feels it represents a cause that supported slavery of blacks and oppression to black people like them. He may not be racist but can he get beyond his ignorance of the matter that it represents something very different to a lot of people that’s he’s not racist towards and find another way to represent his southern pride? He has a culture to be proud of except for that part where his maybe ancestors fought a war of treason to support a few rich slave owning peoples right to enslave and degrade a race of people.

I mean damn I’m hardly “woke” but just seems like common sense.

Help me out next time and break that paragraph up Nit

I dont auto think that : what one party thinks is offensive is okay to just ban..

Also that war of treason to support a few rich slave owning peoples
still exists just not in the way most want to think it does