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06-23-2020 , 05:53 PM
lolololololol jfc wtf bbq etc
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06-23-2020 , 05:56 PM
Gonna be funny how the sports media has to backtrack now. They were so quick to jump on this lol.
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06-23-2020 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
yep
okay sir
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06-23-2020 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
How embarrassing for Nascar. And how did Wallace not know this? Or did he? That's the question now.

https://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/s...tim-hate-crime
Are you serious? He was assigned a garage, How would he have known that the rope had been tied like that since last fall?

While this did apparently prove not to be FOS, it also only took half a day more to hit reputable news than the fringe sites, so I stand by waiting for reputable reporting. Also, I also see nothing that says this incident was "faked." Instead I see evidence of the incident as having been very unfortunate but not apparently malicious.
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06-23-2020 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
Gonna be funny how the sports media has to backtrack now. They were so quick to jump on this lol.
As was this whole damn forum who has this NEED to believe that things are worse than they really are.

Its really quite brutal when a person is mocked just for presenting a differing opinion than the one being spinned.

Please learn from this 2+2 going forward.

Regards
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06-23-2020 , 06:00 PM
15 fbi agents were sent...15!
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06-23-2020 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Are you serious? He was assigned a garage, How would he have known that the rope had been tied like that since last fall?

While this did apparently prove not to be FOS, it also only took half a day more to hit reputable news than the fringe sites, so I stand by waiting for reputable reporting. Also, I also see nothing that says this incident was "faked." Instead I see evidence of the incident as having been very unfortunate but not apparently malicious.
The ropes are generally ALL tied like this as the article explained
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06-23-2020 , 06:08 PM
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The ropes are generally ALL tied like this as the article explained
That is not what the story you linked says. It says
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U.S. Attorney Jay Town and FBI Special Agent in Charge Johnnie Sharp Jr. said its investigation determined "although the noose is now known to have been in garage number 4 in 2019, nobody could have known Mr. Wallace would be assigned to garage number 4 last week."
And that after the investigation began
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The Wood Brothers Racing team said one of its employees informed the team he recalled "seeing a tied handle in the garage pull down rope from last fall," when NASCAR raced at Talladega in October. The team said it immediately alerted NASCAR and assisted the investigation.
Nowhere in the article does it say that any other ropes were also tied like this.
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06-23-2020 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by magking1
Once again, I only said that the guy who posted on Twitter was the crackpot. Nonetheless, it turns out that your nutjob website was right.
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06-23-2020 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
That is not what the story you linked says. It says

And that after the investigation began

Nowhere in the article does it say that any other ropes were also tied like this.
Using the word ALL was my mistake

It is important to note that many manual garage doors at Talladega speedway have these ropes and hand-loops tied into them for use as pull-downs. These same pull-down ropes appear to have been purposefully mistaken for “nooses.”

Also related article
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ideo-evidence/



Just weird to look on a garage door handle pulldown and AUTO assumes it is some kind of noose.
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06-23-2020 , 06:23 PM
Lol, wow magking was correct and this was a big misunderstanding.
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06-23-2020 , 06:25 PM
FIFTEEN FBI Agents!

How did NASCAR not take care of this in 15 seconds?

Not a good look...
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06-23-2020 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Nit
Lol, wow magking was correct and this was a big misunderstanding.
just a big MISUNDERSTANDING
yikes!!!
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06-23-2020 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by magking1
Using the word ALL was my mistake

It is important to note that many manual garage doors at Talladega speedway have these ropes and hand-loops tied into them for use as pull-downs. These same pull-down ropes appear to have been purposefully mistaken for “nooses.”

Also related article
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ideo-evidence/



Just weird to look on a garage door handle pulldown and AUTO assumes it is some kind of noose.
That bolded bit that I thin you're representing as a quote is not from this ESPN article that you linked. That article does not even have the words "manual garage doors" or "hand-loops." If you have evidence of those being standard from a real news source, I'll happily check it out, but not RT, or conservativetreehouse, etc.

I also note that it wasn't Wallace who found the thing and called it a noose, according to that ESPN article. It was "a crew member for Richard Petty Motorsports." I'll also note that Richard Petty drove at Talladega for many, many years. So if that was standard on those garages, he would probably be telling people to calm down, not expressing his anger.
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06-23-2020 , 06:32 PM
What a crazy story that was created of some white supremest being upset that Bubba got rid of all the Confederate flags and this was payback.

This was a little too neatly packaged. I just can’t believe it took multiple Federal agents to uncover. It feels like NASCAR is trying too hard to be woke.
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06-23-2020 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
That bolded bit that I thin you're representing as a quote is not from this ESPN article that you linked. That article does not even have the words "manual garage doors" or "hand-loops." If you have evidence of those being standard from a real news source, I'll happily check it out, but not RT, or conservativetreehouse, etc.

I also note that it wasn't Wallace who found the thing and called it a noose, according to that ESPN article. It was "a crew member for Richard Petty Motorsports." I'll also note that Richard Petty drove at Talladega for many, many years. So if that was standard on those garages, he would probably be telling people to calm down, not expressing his anger.
Okay sir, The NOT REAL news source who cracked this
Encyclopedia Brown level case when that vast majority just went with the story.

I mean a piece of rope used to pull down a door is now a Hate Filled Noose

Talk about a need to overreact!!!

Also I didnt link to espn I linked to
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndal/pr...hnnie-sharp-jr
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06-23-2020 , 06:43 PM
My mistake. I was looking at the link wetleg posted. However, your link also says nothing about additional ropes being tied that way.

And just because someone broke something first does not mean that they are therefore a trustworthy source. Vital Vegas is famous for breaking things first, because they publish every rumor they hear. They're wrong about half the time from what I hear, so the fact that it's there is not credible evidence that it must be true. It's just strong evidence that the rumor is out there.
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06-23-2020 , 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
My mistake. I was looking at the link wetleg posted. However, your link also says nothing about additional ropes being tied that way.

And just because someone broke something first does not mean that they are therefore a trustworthy source. Vital Vegas is famous for breaking things first, because they publish every rumor they hear. They're wrong about half the time from what I hear, so the fact that it's there is not credible evidence that it must be true. It's just strong evidence that the rumor is out there.
It is important to note that many manual garage doors at Talladega speedway have these ropes and hand-loops tied into them for use as pull-downs. These same pull-down ropes appear to have been purposefully mistaken for “nooses.”


That snipped appears in the original link I posted
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...rposeful-hoax/


Yes this is not a traditional source and I had never heard of it before today.
BUT BUT BUT the point is they had actual LEGIT pictures of note and a video as backup to the claims. The story was presented in a way that AT LEAST deserved a fair look whereas the NOOSE story being told by general media was just supposed to be taken as fact without any kind of photographic evidence.

Instead of saying "Hey lets not assume the worst so fast" Multiple Mods and posters knocked the source/evidence and continue to knock it even after they were right.
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06-23-2020 , 06:57 PM
So do you yank it to the Confederate flag or not?
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06-23-2020 , 07:03 PM
It is now on bbc, cnn, tmz and fox. To say it's a fringe theory at this point is a real stretch.
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06-23-2020 , 07:03 PM
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Yes this is not a traditional source and I had never heard of it before today.
BUT BUT BUT the point is they had actual LEGIT pictures of note and a video as backup to the claims. The story was presented in a way that AT LEAST deserved a fair look whereas the NOOSE story being told by general media was just supposed to be taken as fact without any kind of photographic evidence.

Instead of saying "Hey lets not assume the worst so fast" Multiple Mods and posters knocked the source/evidence and continue to knock it even after they were right.
I said from the very beginning that if this was a mistake the legitimate sources would be all over it. And they are. It is the #1 story on CNN right now.

Maybe if you had heard of your source before, you would understand people's reaction. That source is a very well known site for biased and often factually inaccurate stories. Even if it partially correct this time, it doesn't follow that the rest of its narrative is legit.

So as I said, if legit sources start saying that these loops are standard, that will make this thing seem even more blown out of proportion, but that still doesn't make it a conspiracy.
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06-23-2020 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NoSoup4U
Once again, I only said that the guy who posted on Twitter was the crackpot. Nonetheless, it turns out that your nutjob website was right.

Meh.

That making guy seems to get triggered easily.

I wouldn’t sweat it, Soup. Congrats on the boat btw.
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06-23-2020 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by magking1
okay sir
Maybe the FBI is FOS.
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06-23-2020 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by grando1.0
So do you yank it to the Confederate flag or not?
I have no strong sexual emotions regarding the Confed flag
so I certainly dont jerk off to it as a stimulas

But if that is the design on my oiled glove in my hand
it sure wont slow me down

Giggity
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