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Old 01-16-2019, 03:50 AM   #801
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Lektor has indicated that he may return to the original criteria. We shall see if sanity prevails.

The mid-competition rules change criteria happened here:

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So, as we come to the sharp end of the competition, in order to be fair to the 8 ladies who have made it this far, voting in the remaining rounds will be restricted to the people who have shown commitment to this year's Ms. OOT by recording at least 4 votes in the competition so far; in other words, there are 232 people who have made the cut as judges for the Elite Eight onwards. Ultimately these are the 232 people who I am running the competition for, they are the ones who have done the bulk of the work of sorting the wheat from the chaff to get to this point and it's right that they should get the final say on who wins.

The list of judges will follow in the next post.
You may want to go back to that post and read forward from there for just a wee bit of drama.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:52 AM   #802
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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A single politics post strikes me as a bit of an overreach, but yes, I like the idea of some disqualifying ratio between politics posts and OOT posts. But I’m not running the contest and my opinion doesn’t matter.
If we're talking about the rules for next year, I'd go for pretty lax criteria - i.e. let lurkers vote too, with an anti-brigadering exception that if there is evidence of people recruiting votes in other subforums then voters thus far unseen that year are not counted in that vote. It's obviously up to whoever wants to run it next year though.

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LektorAJ is running the competition. He made a terrible decision and disenfranchised hundreds of OOT regs. However, he has indicated that he may return to sanity and restore the usual and historical eligibility rules from the beginning of the competition.
The oldest rule is organiser's discretion. The rules you state didn't do anything to stop brigadering so it's impossible to use them to run a historical-style Ms. OOT. Too many people jealous their subforums don't have Ms. competitions.

People who didn't make the cut as judges for the E8 onwards due to lack of involvement/commitment in Ms. OOT 2018 will be added to the list if they have 20 posts or more in OOT between 1 Jan 2018 and 29 Nov 2018 (i.e. sufficient commitment/involvement in OOT as a whole) and suddenly want to get involved at this late stage.

Just vote and I'll add you to the list.

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Old 01-16-2019, 04:02 AM   #803
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

Hahahahahahahaha! And Lucy yanks the football of sanity away! Lol me, I thought Lektor had some amount of integrity! Ok, just lock it up, since you are now going back on your word yet again, and making up completely new rules yet again! Hahahahahahahaha!
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Old 01-16-2019, 04:14 AM   #804
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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Hahahahahahahaha! And Lucy yanks the football of sanity away! Lol me, I thought Lektor had some amount of integrity! Ok, just lock it up, since you are now going back on your word yet again, and making up completely new rules yet again! Hahahahahahahaha!
Do you have an alternative suggestion for how to nullify brigading?

Are you willing to run this next year?
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Old 01-16-2019, 04:20 AM   #805
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

You asked for help and were offered help, and instead of replying to those posts, you changed the rules yet again.

The suggestion is the same as always - be a man of your word and abide by your own beginning of competition rules, and let everyone vote, and people will help you disqualify those who should be disqualified. You still have not responded to the posts itt where you asked for help and people replied by offering help.
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:29 AM   #806
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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I'm game for this. I'm sadly furloughed and have way too much time on my hands.
Could you check which of the following have at least 20 posts from 1 Jan 2018 to 29/11/2018?

lenC
lol_at_you
mosdef
Nofear3838
Noze
Parlay Slow
prana
pvn
rugby
Rusemandingo
SirOsis
soah
SteveSax
StimAbuser
tabbaker
toddw8
tomdemaine
True North
VoraciousReader
ymmv
Zimmer4141
Bank
bolt2112
Bub
businessdude
COCKBOAT
Han YOLO
JB91
Nittery
sharkstevie
TimTimSalabim
Trolly McTrollson
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Old 01-16-2019, 05:34 AM   #807
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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Hahahahahahahaha! And Lucy yanks the football of sanity away! Lol me, I thought Lektor had some amount of integrity! Ok, just lock it up, since you are now going back on your word yet again, and making up completely new rules yet again! Hahahahahahahaha!
If he has a rule which I believe he does from the start that is a carry-over from gregorio's contest last year then he had ultimate discretion to decide who is eligible!

Sure it may not be the best in terms of providing certainty but he has the right!

What I'd like to see though with all the effort you have put itt to date is for you to run it next year and show us all how to do it as you certainly seem like you know how it should be run.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:40 AM   #808
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

bundy,

1) Your posts are garbage that people laugh at, and multiple people called for your containment weeks ago.

2) Your posts itt are hypocritical, contradictory, demonstrate a lack of integrity, and are not worthy of being responded to other than to laugh at or occasionally point out how wrong they are.

3) I have done far more work for Ms OOT in the past week than you ever have, and I have probably done as much or more work for Ms OOT than anyone else this year other than Lektor, certainly far more work than anyone other than Lektor wrto voter eligibility (actual eligibility checking work, not posting about eligibility) - which has resulted in 60+ wrongly disenfranchised OOT regs being re-enfranchised. There are hundreds more OOT regs who remain disenfranchised, including some who have spoken up itt and not been re-enfranchised, and Lektor is turning his back on taking steps to remedy it, instead just making up new rules and/or following troll suggestions.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:52 AM   #809
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Lektor,

1) Why did you ignore this post, which prompted JonnyA's post? (If it's not clear, I was volunteering to help even more than I have already - which cleared 60+ OOT regs - IF you would agree not to keep going back on your word, and to act with integrity.)

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If I and/or others help, then you agree to (1) return to the historical 100/10 rule that you already said you would abide by, (2) eliminate the mid-competition (1/13) rules change, and (3) not change these rules going forward?

2) Why did you ignore what JonnyA wrote and ask him to do something other than what he volunteered to help do (which is what you asked for in the first place)?

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I'm game for this. I'm sadly furloughed and have way too much time on my hands.

Lektor - please use your software to post a list of all new posters in the matchups so that only new voters need to be checked to see if they have 10 OOT posts.

3) Why you are going back on your word, not just from the beginning of the competition, but from your posts less than 30 hours ago?

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If you're volunteering to help, well so far I've got up to the s16 round with Robbie / Ocasio-Cortez (the one where goofyballer was in another subforum encouraging people to vote regardless of eligiblity as I would sort it out - which I have, just not how he expected.) Please post lists of which of Robbie's voters do and don't meet the 100/10 rule then we'll start work on Ocasio-Cortez's, then we'll move to the next s16 round and so on.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:52 AM   #810
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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bundy,



1) Your posts are garbage that people laugh at, and multiple people called for your containment weeks ago.



2) Your posts itt are hypocritical, contradictory, demonstrate a lack of integrity, and are not worthy of being responded to other than to laugh at or occasionally point out how wrong they are.



3) I have done far more work for Ms OOT in the past week than you ever have, and I have probably done as much or more work for Ms OOT than anyone else this year other than Lektor, certainly far more work than anyone other than Lektor wrto voter eligibility (actual eligibility checking work, not posting about eligibility) - which has resulted in 60+ wrongly disenfranchised OOT regs being re-enfranchised. There are hundreds more OOT regs who remain disenfranchised, including some who have spoken up itt and not been re-enfranchised, and Lektor is turning his back on taking steps to remedy it, instead just making up new rules and/or following troll suggestions.
Yeah you certainly enjoy seeing yourself as a person to keep LektorAJ on his toes - should be commended on your enthusiasm.

Sadly, and as I alluded to, it should have all be in vain as LektorAJ can do whatever he pleases as it is his competition and the rules that he set out before the competition started allowed this but your constant whining has led him to dilute his voting restrictions when he didn't really have to.

You should count yourself lucky he is even entertaining any of what you say.
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Old 01-16-2019, 09:12 AM   #811
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

patron, take a couple deep breaths and have an adult beverage. That should help you to find the sanity you're looking for.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:05 AM   #812
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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Chopstick proposed over dinner that anyone who has posted in a politics thread in the last year should be banned from voting in Ms. OOT.
I note that Chopstick also confessed to being an organizer of his own mass recruitment drive outside of OOT in a prior contest. The primary distinction was that his candidate lost anyhow.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:07 AM   #813
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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Could you check which of the following have at least 20 posts from 1 Jan 2018 to 29/11/2018?
Just to reiterate - the offer was to check for eligibility under the initial rules to alleviate the burden that you said forced you to change the rules.

As I don't think that the rules should change mid-contest, I'm not going to spend my time checking against different rules.
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:13 AM   #814
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

Typical American election process.

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Old 01-16-2019, 10:20 AM   #815
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

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lenC
lol_at_you
mosdef
Nofear3838
Noze
Parlay Slow
prana
pvn
rugby
Rusemandingo
SirOsis
soah
SteveSax
StimAbuser
tabbaker
toddw8
tomdemaine
True North
VoraciousReader
ymmv
Zimmer4141
Bank
bolt2112
Bub
businessdude
COCKBOAT
Han YOLO
JB91
Nittery
sharkstevie
TimTimSalabim
Trolly McTrollson
The following voters are eligible:

lenC
mosdef
Noze
Parlay Slow
prana
pvn
rugby
Rusemandingo
SirOsis
soah
SteveSax
StimAbuser
tabbaker
toddw8
tomdemaine
True North
VoraciousReader
ymmv
Zimmer4141
Bank
Bub
businessdude
JB91
sharkstevie
TimTimSalabim
Trolly McTrollson

The following voters are ineligible:

lol_at_you
Nofear3838
bolt2112
COCKBOAT
Han YOLO
Nittery



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If you're volunteering to help, well so far I've got up to the s16 round with Robbie / Ocasio-Cortez (the one where goofyballer was in another subforum encouraging people to vote regardless of eligiblity as I would sort it out - which I have, just not how he expected.) Please post lists of which of Robbie's voters do and don't meet the 100/10 rule then we'll start work on Ocasio-Cortez's, then we'll move to the next s16 round and so on.
*according to the agreed upon 100/10 rule that Lektor originally asked for help verifying voters with
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Old 01-16-2019, 10:30 AM   #816
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

obv the new contest at this point is to troll people by invalidating their votes

a++, would hanging chad again
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:00 AM   #817
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

The weird thing about Lektor's "anti-brigadering" stance is that prior Ms. OOT competitions were so much fun precisely because of the politicking on each side. Like, I was (am!) an Emma Watson fan, but ninetynine99 killed it in every round that she was in. For example:

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Emma's features make her a perfect posterboy for warnings against the use of human growth hormone: square jaw, big forehead, general all around mannish looks. If I didn't know that Emma was British, I would have guessed that she is a former member of the East German "women's" swim team.


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Hawt:

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Emma Watson or Zac Efron?

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Old 01-16-2019, 11:27 AM   #818
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

Zac Efron for Ms. OOT 2019.
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:40 AM   #819
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I have well over 20 posts in 2018 and afaik I've been purged from the rolls.
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:41 AM   #820
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He changed the requirements again and now you need 20 good posts
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Old 01-16-2019, 11:41 AM   #821
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welp, I'm out then.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:08 PM   #822
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Re: Ms. OOT 2018 Discussion thread.

IMHO Lektor is once again changing the voting requirements because despite his efforts, AOC continues to slay.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:15 PM   #823
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i will no longer be voting in these stupid things, too many rule changes
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:23 PM   #824
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welp, I'm out then.
No you're in. I got as far as the Ms on the voter list you're on. The following people are eligible and will be added to the next version of the list
O.A.F.K.1.1
thethethe
JoeC2012
econophile
amead
bware
ClarkNasty
goofyballer
JackInDaCrak
jalfrezi
matrat
mendicant loafer

The people yet to be checked is pretty much what I posted. I just added a couple of "L"s to the top of the list who I'd already found to be ineligible so I'd quickly know if another person was doing it properly or just adding random names.
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Old 01-16-2019, 12:29 PM   #825
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That’s a great picture of cameron diaz
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