I remember one thing about OOT before I posted here; I was 'afraid' of posting in OOT. The main reason for this was the 'Dont be a douchebag' rule which was enforced more or less strictly under Dids and killa. I didn't think I was a douchebag but I sure was skeptical on whether I could muster up the right amount of content and coolness to be allowed to post here. Now thats kind of silly but its true in a way.

I feel like this is the contrary to what has been happening in OOT lately. OOT mods should be less 'fair' and way more harsh, I would never advocate taking permanent actions against a regular for petty trolling because they are the foundation this forum is build on but some 'newer' posters could certainly feel a bit more of a wrath from the OOT mods. FWIW, I appreciate the effort from the (current) OOT mods and everyone that has helped build this place to what it is, I just felt it was worth discussing.

The problem is probably also that OOT has changed in a similar way in which the world (of poker) has changed. I dont think there is a 'going back' option and thats fine but I do think that OOT can be better than this. OTOH its not always easy because often crazy people can be good posters as well which isnt always obvious from the get go.
I didn't think a moderation thread would work because under moderation is way less visible than over moderation is but Im interested in what you all think.
A good forum that controls the quality it offers has threads in ATF about Mods being *******s. Im also no authority on OOT and probably one of the 'newer' regulars, but hey, **** it;
The moderation can be quite a bit harsher in an attempt to up the quality of OOT.

I think it's fine the way it is. Dids held a powerful hand above the way conversations took place, which held back the expansion of discourse in exchange for things being more proper. Maybe that was best in a time when less topics had been fully mined.

It was fine to be harsh and ban folks back when the talent pool was deep and OOT was good. The most entertaining threads these days are laughing at and arguing with terrible posters. If you banned all the ****ty posters, there'd be no one left to post, and this place basically becomes the Lounge.

Yak,

I can't say I disagree on being complacent in the authoratah/banning department.

I'm going to ban you now for making a ****ty OP. Thanks for the push I needed

Fmp, you're probably right though gregorio. Its hard for me to judge since Im somewhat new obv, hence the thread.

Def. should be bans for people who make up stories in an attempt to get some epic thread running.

I dunno, I find some of the ridiculous made up threads to be pretty amusing. Sometimes it's even fun to pretend it's real when you know it's clearly not. Maybe I just have issues.

you can only go to that well so often though before this just turns in to 4chan or some other terrible forum that's just a ton of liars making up story and jmakin + ccuster going crazy because someone is wrong on the internet

A well-constructed, made-up thread can be entertaining. However, those are not the norm. Most are poorly made and have holes in them large enough to drive a semi through.

Most of the time that's the best part. I do worry about their sanity, though.

I would fully support more wrath against the obvious dip****s.

examples of under-moderation in oot?

edit: guess yak actually got temped

Free Yak!


I don't know how I feel about moderation. I do get tired of some of the most egregious stuff, but that's how it goes. I don't want a forum of old boring people, so I have to put up with viewpoints that bother me sometimes.

I don't report posts (except for spam), because I'm in OOT for other opinions on things, especially from those who are younger.

I was mostly in NVG and BBV back in 2007, so I don't really know what the numbers were in OOT. Were they much higher back then?

27o,

i told yak to make this thread in the 'should we have kids?' thread. he then sent me a long PM (essentially this OP) saying he wasn't sure if he should make a thread but he wanted to discuss. i again told him to make the thread so we could see what the bulk of people feel about OOT lately, and the fact that the forum isn't really being ruled with an iron fist like it once was (and how that has likely resulted in an influx of horrific posters).

Oh god, if 27offsuit actually banned Yakmelk for making a moderation discussion thread after Yeti specifically told him he should, that would be so amazing. Please let it be true.

Iron-fisted rule wasn't that great either. ****, I was once banned from OOT when NT was mod for (by his definition) not being a good poster.

Modding is like being a football referee. If people don't like you, it means you're doing a good job.

Eh, if he didn't know Yeti told him he could...

Lol will you two *ever* cease fire?

I think it's healthy to have a moderation discussion thread even if things are fine, for reasons such as the above. It's good to have a place where you can capture the current vibe of the forum users, and where they can bring up any questions/issues. I suppose this forum's LC and Worst Posters threads sort of double as that already though.

like lattimer says, he had no way of knowing

yeah i've never really been a fan of the 'celebrity' modding approach, but there's certainly a ton of posters i'd love to wipe out at the moment

If you have the ear of anybody capable of doing it, I'm sure it would be a great service for civil forum members.

There are a bunch of really bad posters who are entertaining, primarily through the mocking they inspire. There are also a number of really bad posters who contribute absolutely nothing and make any thread they post in worse. The former should stay, confined if necessary. The latter ones should be getting banned, rather than be allowed to continue their ****ty ways with impunity.

For example, Slipslop should not be allowed to break containment.

lol rapini

It's amusing not merely because it happened but because it's typical hypocrisy from him. He says that he thinks the correct way to mod is being hands off, then he bans first (without leaving a note) and asks questions later (maybe?).

(confirmed 27offsuit banned with ban reason: [tar har lololol at u])

Agreed... mods, go check the autism thread for one of the real-world examples somebody requested.

OOT could use a little Rapining