Sounds like Peggy brainstorming on Mad Men.

A380

747 is the hump-back style

That's got to be one of the best ways to die. Thanks for sharing.

Re hiring ab initio in the 60's: Does the airline give credit for military flying experience?

^^^^ this.

It would be a great play by somebody that actually has the plane to plant some identifiable parts, that can be easily replaced, somewhere in the Indian Ocean. So people will think it crashed there and stop looking for it north.

pretty great conspiritard post deleted by yakmelk

something about a second plane the media is ignoring and nobody admitting existed

Of course they do. In fact, they give it added weight. When I said there was some ab initio hiring in the U.S. in the early 60's, it wasn't a designed program, but the hiring pool was empty and some guys were in the right place at the right time and got hired with very little or no flight time.

I personally know a guy (played golf with him several times) who retired from United Airlines about seven years ago with a seniority number of 1. When he got hired he had only a private pilot license and less than 200 hours. They simply couldn't find enough pilots back then.

Its one of those posts you type and end up not posting. But then I accidentally did and had to ninja. But not ninja enough.

can you work the word aliens in there somewhere?

AIRLINES

or simply airliens

Seriously, a jetliner is missing for 163 pages. We have been told its been in 3 different bodies of water, spotted on fire, flying low over the wtfs Maldives??? , been hijacked by 2 Iranians wearing the same capri pants, been flown into the ocean by a suicidal,atheist,politically disenfranchised recently separated muslim who loved flying. So i pose a ? to the guys that call guys like me conspiritards, if there ever was a conspiracy, could this be it?

I forgot the Aliens and blackhole expert

Wow. Why was that by the way?

My money is on an electrical fire of some kind that ultimately burned itself out but not before incapacitating the crew.

ALIENS! ****ING ALIENS! I KNEW IT!

My guess is learning to fly is a pretty expensive hobby. There's only an x amount of military guys to go around.

This is why you attach the black box ON TOP of the airplane. Like literally, just take some superglue and stick that sucker on the airplane.

what about some form of gas leak or depressurization? can those both incapacitate crew and passengers as well?

as for as the hijack/intentional pilot action theories, is the only evidence of this the diversion from the ordinary course and the lack of communication?

if fire/gas/depressurization made the pilot pass out, if he were to fall at a certain angle, could his body hit the flight stick in such a fashion that would cause the plane to turn? also cause the plane to elevate?

and then perhaps after elevating to 45,000 the angle of the plane was such that the passed out body fell off the flight stick, thus the plane reverted to autopilot and corrected back to 23,000 or whatever the normal altitude was?

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also, I love that conspiratards dont understand the basic principles of how these things work. In every investigation into anything since the history of time, there is always conflicting stories and evidence. Its because people are HORRIBLE at recounting the actual events as eye witnesses and are susceptible to all kinds of psychological effects. Some guy robs a bank and two different witnesses will swear he drove off in a blue car, or a red truck. Is one of them a misinformation agent? no, people just suck at this stuff and memories are terribly fallible. So when youve got a news machine that runs 24/7 and reports every single thing that pops into anyones head of course this is what happens. It would be a sign of a coverup if this **** DIDNT happen.

I love that governments are at the same time able to consistently pull off some insanely dastardly deed with surgical precision, but also constantly bungle the coverup and leave all kinds of clues and terribly obvious evidence of their coverup in the wake.

Weird as in CONSPIRACY weird? If so im fully behind this. Never fully trusted those Norwegians.

ADDING : Norwegians + 15666 fo $10 based on sharyeblunt's insight tyvm

These are pretty big factors for the intentional action theory:

* The plane changed course significantly
* The timing of the diversion from course / loss of contact is suspicious
* That the disaster happened to knock out all obvious communication/location related functions without knocking out the location feature a pilot wouldn't really have known about or without knocking the plane out of the sky.
* That the accident happened fast enough to prevent the pilots from making any emergency communication at all.

Simple supply and demand. The airlines were growing rapidly and the supply of military pilots was very low. This was before Vietnam heated up and long after WWII and the Korean conflict.

That the final ACARS transmission 12 minutes before the "all right, good night" sign off contained waypoint information showing that the FMS had been programmed to turn off the course to Beijing is sufficient by itself to prove intentional action. Not sure how you explain that otherwise.

I agree it was intentional, but that could be the crew doing it with the intention of diverting due to an on-board emergency.

I'm still wondering how ACARS reports a change to the FMS. It's news to me that this is possible.

At what point do they call off this intense search though