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I always wonder that about really stupid people as well. I think the irony is that the truly stupid actually believe they are smart, and the truly smart are constantly concerned theyre not smart enough.

Yeah somebody already linked Dunning Kruger.

The stupidest people are too stupid to even know that they are stupid. It kind of makes sense too when you really think about it. Realizing one's own stupidity is at least recognizing and knowing something, that takes like a smallest kernel of thought to do. The bottom of the barrel stupid folk don't even possess the intelligence enough necessary to recognize how stupid they are.

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03-20-2014 , 03:59 AM

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Also to get like 3000km southwest of Perth, dude must have literally ran the plane until it was running on absolute fumes. I still feel like the crew was incapacitated or something. I get that assuming the worst that the pilot is on a joyride or something, he's suicidal, not acting rational, but still, seems like he eventually put his feet up and ran the thing south until it ran out of gas, which is odd.

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03-20-2014 , 04:00 AM

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if that's really the plane then it's a testament to technology that it was found in the middle of the indian ocean within 7 days of crashing after a crew member intentionally shut off all the tracking mechanisms he could.

Agree. Pretty amazing how they've been able to deduce its location from the very little information they had.

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03-20-2014 , 04:00 AM

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Just 25 mins ago:

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Celia Hatton, BBC News, Beijing
tweets: Scores of police and at least 5 ambulances just arrived at hotel where #MH370 families waiting

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03-20-2014 , 04:03 AM

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UMMMM. UH... "you can't see how very important i look right now"

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03-20-2014 , 04:10 AM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swissair_Flight_111

The wiki on Swiss Air is worth a read. The aircraft broke into over 2 million pieces when it impacted the ocean.

Wow, I don't remember this crash at all. Very sad and scary what the pilots went through, let alone the passengers.

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03-20-2014 , 04:15 AM

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I'll leave it here but apparently the sizes dont match so disregard

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03-20-2014 , 04:24 AM

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Fox News stating that there are storms in the area, which will complicate the search for a while. Very deep ocean in that area (12k feet!).

Recovering this plane will still be a major challenge. 1500 miless of Perth is pretty darned far.

Will the FDR signal (30 day battery, right?) even be audiible if the water is that deep?

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03-20-2014 , 04:24 AM

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^^
From pprune:

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The tail height is 18.5m not 20 meters and that is from the ground to tip of the VS. The actual height of the VS from fuselage is about 10m.
Your superimposed T7 pic looks about 2x too big. Whatever that object is, it can't be the tail (assuming 24m is accurate).

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03-20-2014 , 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 2ndUnit

^^
From pprune:

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The tail height is 18.5m not 20 meters and that is from the ground to tip of the VS. The actual height of the VS from fuselage is about 10m.
Your superimposed T7 pic looks about 2x too big. Whatever that object is, it can't be the tail (assuming 24m is accurate).

well that kills that then

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03-20-2014 , 05:00 AM

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Looks like we could have some news soon....

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CCTV News tweets: #US P-8 has arrived in Indian Ocean area; US 7th Fleet spokesperson confirms they have located the debris identified by #Australia. #MH370

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03-20-2014 , 05:23 AM

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CNN coverage is painful to watch

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03-20-2014 , 05:27 AM

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News conference at half-past. BBC correspondent says that he's expecting to hear reports from the US P-8 regarding what they have found.

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03-20-2014 , 05:28 AM

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Stream anywhere? On phone

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03-20-2014 , 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by housenuts

Stream anywhere? On phone

http://news.sky.com/templates/watch-live

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03-20-2014 , 05:35 AM

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press conference is worthless - just repeating what is already in the media, and naming the specific aircraft and ships that are looking for the debris

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03-20-2014 , 05:38 AM

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TIL Laos has an air force

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03-20-2014 , 05:46 AM

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Does anyone know why we were searching the South China Sea when within a single day, the aircraft was known to be flying in the opposite direction? Did the military just refuse to communicate to the government?

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03-20-2014 , 05:47 AM

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@cctvnews - The US P-8 has finished its search in a suspected area in southern Indian Ocean without having found any debris, as per an ABC report.#MH370

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03-20-2014 , 05:49 AM

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Dumb question perhaps, but how likely is it that a tail-fin (or whatever they are called) would float? I guess they are hollow to some extent but you would think they would fill with water and sink, leaving only small pieces of lighter stuff on the surface.

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03-20-2014 , 05:51 AM

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Even tho I feel for the victims families, I would be disappointed if they found it west of Australia. I wanted it to be something bigger like some dirt runway in Pakistan or something.

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03-20-2014 , 05:53 AM

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It's absurdly unlikely they were working together since they have nothing in common. Very different ages, one a Muslim and one an atheist, etc. And since the lead theory right now is the plane ditching in the ocean, they obviously aren't going to be working together on a plan like that. Finally, there's no reason to complicate the scenario by having two pilots who want to hijack a plane instead of one. Occam's Razor. Having both pilots in on it doesn't explain anything as there are plenty of scenarios for how the other pilot was incapacitated.

I don't think it was confirmed that the pilot was an atheist. The Malaysians still claim he was a Muslim. He did 'like' atheistic videos on his channel but I doubt he stopped praying, ate pork etc.

It is a HUGE deal for someone of his status to claim to be Atheist in Malaysia. He would be ostracized immediately by his extended family etc.

I had some Malaysian Chinese students and they were complaining that they couldn't even praise Islam in their classes or even discuss it. They had no right to express an opinion on that topic.

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03-20-2014 , 05:54 AM

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Civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman spreads more confusion by suggesting the Australian satellite images were taken this morning, despite Sunday’s date on the images. He is corrected by Hishammuddin who points out that the news was received this morning.

This is getting ridiculous

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03-20-2014 , 06:32 AM

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I wonder how weird it would be if they never find it.

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03-20-2014 , 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DTD

After the air france plain went down outside of Brazil there was an image of a large part of a wing floating and divers trying to secure it with ropes to be able to salvage it. So seems likely that tail also would float.

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