I'll take the over on that.

People don't let stuff like this go. The families will raise funds for a private search, the Chinese government will try to be heroes, etc.

Reading that link, I don't follow what happened. The depressurization happened and the flight attendant didn't enter the cockpit for almost two hours?

Just not known. That was when the escorting fighters first saw him in the cabin. He was probably hypoxic himself. Although he had a portable oxygen mask, they are not sufficient to provide a normal amount of oxygen at 34,000 feet. They're supposed to be enough to keep people going while the plane rapidly descends, which is the protocol in the event of loss of cabin pressure.

Bump for no new information, but an interesting example of cognitive bias in action:

Recall that the central thing about MH370 which is hard to accept is that someone took control of the plane and flew it into the ocean for no purpose and without claiming responsibility. Baum's theory does absolutely nothing to change this central mystery, but instead heaps additional unlikely premises - like the existence of a stowaway - on top of it. The competing theories are:

1) The pilot flew the plane into the ocean for no reason
2) A bad man sneaked aboard and flew the plane into the ocean for no reason

Theory 2 sounds more superficially appealing to some people, because it posits the existence of a "bad man", but actually theory 1 is vastly more likely because the pilot is an actual person known to exist and known to be in control of the plane. This is a cognitive bias similar, but not quite identical to the conjunction fallacy.

So according to this great logician, something becomes more likely if its possibility is doubted by all the officials

@ChrisV thoughts on

https://twitter.com/PeurAvion/status...65426093002752

and

This guy https://twitter.com/MikeChillit that seems pretty sure of where to find the plane ?

It's really not that hard. It's the Germanwings disaster, except the killer was the captain and not the first officer, and for obvious reasons of flight time the passengers and crew were not killed by impact but by decompressing the cabin beforehand, and the final dive, after a flight which the captain had practised on his home simulator, was into the sea and not into mountains.

Does that really need practicing for?

No idea about the latter, I don't understand his theory.

The first one:

1) That there was electrical dysfunction before takeoff is a pretty dubious inference from the data, and if there was dysfunction to the extent he suggests then it should have been noticed.

Edit: This data which supposedly showed dysfunction on the ground was later corrected. This guy links the correction later in his Twitter feed.

2) "Electrical failure while in cruise" is a huge handwave. The 777 has two main generators, an auxiliary generator, two backup generators, a ram air turbine, as well as batteries for critical flight instruments. Systems are isolated from each other to avoid general systemic failure. They have thought this **** through, as you might imagine.

3) This is the flight path of MH370:



We know from satellite data that it made a further turn south after this. The turn towards Penang could be consistent with a search for an airport, but the rest of it is not. For instance, the plane at no point began a descent, even though we know (from the turn over Penang) that someone was still in control of it at that point.

4) "a depressurization occurs" why? Electrical failure will not cause this. The cabin is pressurized mechanically using bleed air from the engines.

It wasn't drifting for nine years, it was being towed to the breakers and was cut loose like a week ago because of bad weather.

The flight does, yes. You need to work out a route.

Why? Incompetence exposed? Responsibilities to victims because of suicide?

Not sure what he's talking about, but the Malaysian government have been kind of secretive through this whole thing. They are resistant to the conclusion that is was probably the pilot because Malaysian Airlines is state-owned. It's the same people who own the airline who produced the report, basically.

Lol no 3rd party report but I do recall there being other countries (the U.S. mainly) that called shenanigans.

Everytime I see this bumped I get a little excited at the prospect that maybe something was found

There may be strong cultural and institutional resistance to admitting that Captain Shah went amok (or, in DSM-IV terms, beramok, involving depression due to marital problems).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_amok

I doubt it's much to do with legal liability, since proof of Captain Shah's guilt is absent -- even though his guilt is obvious -- and in any case there is no indication that Malaysian Airlines could or should have known he was going to go amok.

The Malays of course denied that there was anything incriminating on Captain Shah's home simulator, but the FBI, who examined it closely, said that he had in fact practised that very route to the middle of the southern Indian Ocean, a peculiar place to go because there's nothing there, and had then deleted the files. (You may now do the math. Answers on one side of the paper only.)

In May, 60 Minutes Australia concluded no-question that Captain Shah was responsible.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b032b10bfcf712

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8350621.html

It's just Germanwings, on an intercontinental scale, the crime committed by someone whose culture required him to conceal his guilt, and all the crueller because, to the anguish of the other families, this cultural vanity required that the bodies never be found.

Things have of course been found. Notably, two years ago, there was part of an engine cowling bearing the Rolls-Royce brand, identified with MH370, washed up on the coast of South Africa along with part of the aircraft's interior. And, three years ago, there was MH370's starboard flaperon, washed up on Reunion, in a condition which indicated to experts that it was deployed when the aircraft broke up, suggesting that the pilot made a deliberate low-speed ditching to minimise wreckage and conceal his guilt.

The circular anti-clockwise currents in the Indian Ocean mean that this is where you would expect these parts to turn up, after about that interval of time, if MH370 'went in' where Inmarsat said it went in, west of Australia.

The NTSB report had flight data to back it up. The Egyptian claims were imaginary.

Not exactly Islamic, but it's to do with 'honour' culture.

No. Given cockpit security, and the fact that hijackers announce their actions (that being the whole point of a hijacking), and the ease with which the hijack code can be sent on the transponder, that did not happen. As the aircraft deliberately flew away from populated centres and was last seen by radar outbound over the ocean, no shootdown would have been necessary and there are no fighter jets in evidence. This is just made up stuff.

There was nothing to those reports at all.

It'seems incongruous that people think that the captain had the plane's route in his home computer yet for some reason that supposed route can't be used to find the plane.

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http://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnew...laims.amp.html

How credible is this lol

Seems legit. This was clearly no half-arsed job.

The general location is known from the Inmarsat pings. The exact location is not. The ocean floor consists of gnarly, rocky mountains and valleys, about four miles down, in a world of darkness, at temperatures and pressures almost unimaginable to the human mind.

Well, the temperature isn't that unimaginable. Just a couple of degrees above freezing.

Maybe 57on red has never felt cold water

I mean even if he has never felt it he would likely be able to imagine it

maybe he lives on the sun jerk