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03-15-2014 , 03:34 PM
If someone wanted to jam cell phone signals, for the few minutes it took the passengers to black out from hypoxia or for hours of an off-course cruise, that's easy to do. My jammer cost about $50 iirc. No doubt there are better ones available, but mine works reasonably well (though not for an area the size of a widebody fuselage, but again, it's a really easy problem to solve).
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03-15-2014 , 03:34 PM
**** that. I do not want to be on a plane where the pilot is like "Yea sure cmon in!" You stay in your area, I'll stay in mine.
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03-15-2014 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigi_Bailey
I see a lot of people mentioning it's very hard for someone to breach security measures and enter the cockpit. I found it rather easy telling the cabin crew I am a pilot myself and was wondering if I could have a look in the front. A lot of my fellow pilots and student pilots do this because well it's fun. People can travel along on the jumpseat in the cockpit with the captain's permission as well. Now assume the copilot wants to take his friend on the jumpseat. If the jumpseat is empty there will be hardly any reason for a captain to deny this.

I am not saying any of these things happened on this flight, but I am just saying I haven't found it too hard entering a cockpit (apart from work) the past few years.
OMG. I am involved in aviation and find that, post 9/11, this is happening in Canada or US. The LAST person I would want in the cockpit is a passenger wanting to.....well....visit the cockpit.
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03-15-2014 , 03:35 PM
I'm telling you all, Australian outback! Plane landed there, refueled, was flown to iran/wherever. Passengers are stranded in the outback!
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03-15-2014 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigi_Bailey
Europe the Netherlands, but lived in the US for quite a bit too in the past 5 years. I flew in and out of the US a bunch of times with different airlines. All around Europe and The Carribean. I know safety rules regarding flight deck are strict everywhere, U.S. and Europe, but I'm very unsure about the adherence towards this. I am not a big hairy and scary looking man asking in a deep voice if I can go see the cockpit, but it shouldn't matter, just me saying I was a pilot and would like to see the cockpit was enough to get me in there a couple of times. (not saying that it's always allowed btw)

I could be wrong, but I believe in the US the crew is allowed to use the jumpseat as well right (I mean for friends and family as well).
Mid-flight you do this??
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03-15-2014 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigi_Bailey
I could be wrong, but I believe in the US the crew is allowed to use the jumpseat as well right (I mean for friends and family as well).
I'm pretty sure you need to be an active pilot to use the jump seat and I assume you need to be verified before doing it. At least by the rules.
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03-15-2014 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrike
If someone wanted to jam cell phone signals, for the few minutes it took the passengers to black out from hypoxia or for hours of an off-course cruise, that's easy to do. My jammer cost about $50 iirc. No doubt there are better ones available, but mine works reasonably well (though not for an area the size of a widebody fuselage, but again, it's a really easy problem to solve).
im curious, why do u own a phone signal jammer?
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03-15-2014 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticKnight
OMG. I am involved in aviation and find that, post 9/11, this is happening in Canada or US. The LAST person I would want in the cockpit is a passenger wanting to.....well....visit the cockpit.
I agree. I don't mind because I like it better in the front than in the back, but tbh I'd rather not have a stranger come look around in the cockpit myself. They might be selective with who they let in the cockpit, but the fact I am not a guy, not scary-looking shouldn't change anything. If I have bad intentions I would have probably thought through the fact I can't take 2 pilots down in a whiff... Good thing I always just want to enjoy the view up there and chat with the pilots about their plane etc.
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03-15-2014 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
Mid-flight you do this??
especially mid-flight. They usually don't allow it close to take-off and landing because they are more busy.
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03-15-2014 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigi_Bailey
especially mid-flight. They usually don't allow it close to take-off and landing because they are more busy.
Good point. And on a side note, id love to visit your cockpit aswell
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03-15-2014 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LolZombies
Good point. And on a side note, id love to visit your cockpit aswell
I myself wouldn't allow it ever
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03-15-2014 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
let's stop debating ******ed ufo videos and stay on topic plz.
When the Aliens do come I bet you won't be so smug and self-assured then, will ya smart guy?
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03-15-2014 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigi_Bailey
I myself wouldn't allow it ever
haha. Firm but straight! Good girl
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03-15-2014 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gigi_Bailey
They might be selective with who they let in the cockpit, but the fact I am not a guy, not scary-looking shouldn't change anything.
LOL
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03-15-2014 , 04:16 PM
Some pilot dude on CNN said saying "Alright, good night." on the radio is inappropriate and code for telling air traffic that something is wrong.
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03-15-2014 , 04:18 PM
If they have all the passengers still, and want money... Just float out a picture of whose "up first" say you want your $100 Billion by tomorrow at 3pm. If not received, float picture of first ups head blown off, followed by who's up next. Easiest game ever.

Lock to get your 100 Billi
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03-15-2014 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
Some pilot dude on CNN said saying "Alright, good night." on the radio is inappropriate and code for telling air traffic that something is wrong.
I hear it all the time. Its totally standard to hear that when on an instrument flight plan or with flight following in general aviation. I live right on the edge of coverage between seattle center and oakland center. Hear it all the time handed off from one to the other.
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03-15-2014 , 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BluffMyNuts
This took way too long to get made. Well done.
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03-15-2014 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Man
Some pilot dude on CNN said saying "Alright, good night." on the radio is inappropriate and code for telling air traffic that something is wrong.
yeah there's no such code in aviation land that I know of, besides the transponder code you punch in when you have an emergency, hijack or radio communications failure. CNN dude makes quite the statement there. I don't know how those things work over there, but yes officially it's not standard radio communications, but it happens all over the world. They say hi and bye when entering and leaving the frequency. Wishing someone a good night wouldn't be considered weird but rather polite in the countries I flew. Maybe it's different there. Ofcourse that's just part of what he said, maybe it makes more sense with the rest of his story which I don't know or haven't seen.
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03-15-2014 , 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by crashjr
I live right on the edge of coverage between seattle center and oakland center. Hear it all the time handed off from one to the other.
You should get that receiver out of your ear

but yeah you're right, it's pretty standard to greet on the radio, although the FAA R/T officials might disagree (read;deny).
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03-15-2014 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GREEAR10
If they have all the passengers still, and want money... Just float out a picture of whose "up first" say you want your $100 Billion by tomorrow at 3pm. If not received, float picture of first ups head blown off, followed by who's up next. Easiest game ever.

Lock to get your 100 Billi
what country in the world is giving terrorists $100,000,000,000 for 250 people?

and let say that did happen (and under no circumstances would it, for many reasons), that's the most traced/tracked money in the history of money.

some rando from Malaysia goes from busto beggar to having $100 billion and everyone's like, 'yeah, musta just found some rich tourists to buy some trinkets'...lol
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03-15-2014 , 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteGoose
This took way too long to get made. Well done.
I stole it from reddit.
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03-15-2014 , 04:51 PM
What gives rise to the ambiguity re the 2 possible routes the plane may have taken?
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03-15-2014 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FUrake
im curious, why do u own a phone signal jammer?
I don't use it any more, but have to keep students in my classes from texting the whole time, which was disruptive. I used it a few times but eventually decided it wasn't worth bothering to turn it on.
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03-15-2014 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pnazari
What gives rise to the ambiguity re the 2 possible routes the plane may have taken?
The satellite data.

[IMG]http://s8.************/ye87yekz9/isat.jpg[/IMG]

They can see which 'degree' it would have had to be on and then they look at how far it could have flown in that time and based on that they presume it could be in the highlighted areas.
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