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09-16-2008 , 07:56 AM

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old hand

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Originally Posted by supafrey

Guiliani.

I guess this means you're Republican. Or a product of their schools, or who knows.

Anyway, the commute to Secaucus from New York is surprisingly quick, so unless you want to live somewhere where nothing happens (i.e., New Jersey), do not consider moving to New Jersey.

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09-16-2008 , 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xxThe_Lebowskixx

freakonomics said guiliani had nothing to do with it, it was simply abortion being legalized.

seriously though, where did all the poor people go if rents are so high and everything is so safe?

short answer, those that remain are crowded into high-density slums in south bronx, brooklyn, etc. the poorest neighborhoods face a ridiculous housing crisis and many people have also fled to cities in neighboring counties or new jersey. the outer boroughs are being developed rapidly.

aside from that, crime and poverty, while obviously closely correlated, do not necessarily move completely in lock-step with one another. most violent crimes are confined to the poor against the poor at this point. property crimes occur in the 'frontier areas' where gentrification is still taking place.

also, freakonomics is ******ed on this issue. it's been thoroughly debunked.

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09-16-2008 , 09:49 AM

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otnemem

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Originally Posted by questions

If you want to commute to New Jersey from New York and your office isn't within walking distance of the train station, you need to have a car. In Manhattan. Unless OP has a lot of money, this seems like a terrible idea (assuming he'd have to live in Manhattan for that quick commute).

Also, are you trying to say that Giuliani didn't clean up NYC?

EDIT: Not sure if you're referring to poor people moving out or the city being safer.

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09-16-2008 , 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by otnemem

My suggestion: Look at Montclair. It's a safe, suburban town with a decent downtown (not many bars, but a few eclectic restaurants). And the rents aren't too high. Unless the watch place is very close to the Secaucus train station, you'll have to commute by car no matter where you live, fyi.

Seconded. It can be a fun town (it's a college town), has some nightlife and good restaurants. It also has a direct train into midtown (30 minutes) if you want to party in the city.

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09-16-2008 , 10:24 AM

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econophile

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yeah, don't live in the city if you will be working in jersey.

1) your commute would be too long

2) you would have to pay city income tax

just live near the school and come into the city for fun

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09-17-2008 , 09:12 PM

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old hand

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Originally Posted by otnemem

Also, are you trying to say that Giuliani didn't clean up NYC?

That's not clear to me. I've read he took credit for lots of things that would have happened regardless of whether he'd been mayor.

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EDIT: Not sure if you're referring to poor people moving out or the city being safer.

Well first, seems like suprafrey was saying, good on Giuliani for (figuratively, of course) push poor people over the cliff. Second he misspelled his name.

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09-17-2008 , 09:56 PM

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CheckRaise

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found this place a few months ago, its dirt cheap and available

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09-17-2008 , 09:59 PM

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old hand

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Originally Posted by CheckRaise

found this place a few months ago, its dirt cheap and available

If that's Ridgewood, the commute into the city will freaking wear you out. Though it's a nice neighborhoody kind of area. Very old-time Brooklyn. Rough around the edges though.

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09-17-2008 , 10:00 PM

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otnemem

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Ridgewood is in Queens. Unless you're saying it has a Brooklyn vibe...

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09-17-2008 , 10:07 PM

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CheckRaise

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pretty sure its in bushwick, idk what borough thats in but its right next to bushwick ave and myrtle ave intersection

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09-17-2008 , 10:09 PM

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TripSearching

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There are so many towns in Bergen County you can live in that would make your commute to Secaucus manageable. Look into Hackensack.

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09-17-2008 , 10:09 PM

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TripSearching

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Originally Posted by CheckRaise

pretty sure its in bushwick, idk what borough thats in but its right next to bushwick ave and myrtle ave intersection

Brooklyn, this is probably next to Pratt.

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09-17-2008 , 10:16 PM

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Ah, it's in Queens but borders Bushwick:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridgewood,_Queens

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