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11-26-2016 , 06:35 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Rossum

This girl was SMOKING HOT during her fugue state and only reason her kidnapping story was disproven was because her husband demanded that she take a drug test 6 months after her crazy story's dust had settled (from lifetime tv documentary series "Snapped" definitely must-see)
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11-26-2016 , 06:40 PM
http://nypost.com/2015/10/05/half-na...siting-friend/

Drugs, BPD, or alcohol explain craziness better than some of the arguments in this thread. Don't underestimate the pretty ones...
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11-26-2016 , 06:51 PM
Sounds like she tried to pull a Bunny Lebowski
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11-26-2016 , 07:26 PM
Lol nice one
need to check if she has a little toe missing ala The Big Lebowski movie

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11-26-2016 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Daenerys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_Rossum

This girl was SMOKING HOT during her fugue state and only reason her kidnapping story was disproven was because her husband demanded that she take a drug test 6 months after her crazy story's dust had settled (from lifetime tv documentary series "Snapped" definitely must-see)
I think you have the wrong link to the story you posted.
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11-26-2016 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Daenerys
I'm so glad 2p2 still has this type of thing within the first 5 posts, lol. This story floats the idea specifically:

Could ANY random 35 year old woman out jogging be kidnapped and then housed/fed for a couple days and then dropped back off onto the side of the road for no reason? (Answer: highly improbable)

The real explanation is she probably (1) had a terrible plan with meh execution or (2) a brilliant plan with terrible execution or (3) she just simply has BPD. All 3 likely explanations are infinitely more plausible than the random-kidnapping angle. I mean I can understand kidnapping a cute bunny because you are temporarily ensnared by your emotions and just want to cuddle its softness into a pillow and then lost interest.

Kidnapping a real human (felony) and then changing your mind after the hard part of the plan has been achieved, and then just abandoning the plan all make news story (in its current form) exceedingly sketch.
She was kidnapped for nearly a month, which adds to the befuddlement/speculation. Also the apb was Hispanic women dark suv which is not very detailed for being held captive for a month
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11-26-2016 , 11:40 PM
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What doesn't seem right? Is there a standard playbook for 2 armed women abducting a jogger?

The woman was found chained up and badly beaten by the side of a highway. I don't see any reason to not believe her story just because it's odd. People are odd.

Most of the skepticism seems to come from the fact that it was 2 women who abducted her, that there was no ransom demand (that we know of), and she was suddenly released after 3 weeks. I don't find any of these things particularly hard to believe.
I'm surprised that you don't find all three of those things happening hard to believe. So they seemingly abducted her, kept her for a few weeks and then let her go? Why? When I think of a young attractive woman getting abducted, or any abduction for that matter, usually I would think it would involve either money, rape and/or murder.
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11-26-2016 , 11:54 PM
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I'm surprised that you don't find all three of those things happening hard to believe. So they seemingly abducted her, kept her for a few weeks and then let her go? Why? When I think of a young attractive woman getting abducted, or any abduction for that matter, usually I would think it would involve either money, rape and/or murder.
True but I am not going to discount this woman's story because it seems weird. If she is telling the truth she has been through a horrible ordeal and it's not fair to say she is lying just because it doesn't fit our preconceptions of how something like this might happen.

I'm interested to hear all the details, and maybe I will be proven wrong for believing her, but I don't think so.
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11-27-2016 , 12:04 AM
I find it plausible to be able to kidnap, even with a plan to murder, then back out. And situations that were planned to kidnap and let them go, a debt maybe.
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11-27-2016 , 12:32 AM
if the whole thing is a scam, by claiming it was women that kidnapped her, she avoids the rape stigma.

it could be like.. "oh i got kidnapped, $100k yoink!, nah, i wasn't raped. i know right, yeah so lucky. still though, really gonna have to spend lots of time on the couch with Dr.Lewis... i wonder if i should ask for more money? what do you think? do you think Oprah might be interested in having me on?"

it is also possible that she wasn't kidnapped by women, was kidnapped by men, but is claiming that so that she can avoid the rape stigma.

i don't really like speculating over this **** cause if it really happened that really sucks.

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11-27-2016 , 01:11 AM
It's entirely possible that she was kidnapped, terrible things happened and so on. But it seems like those stories end up with a pile of bones some duct tape. Combined with so many scams and gofundme type concerns now it's easy to be skeptical. That's not really a fair place to start I know.
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11-27-2016 , 02:06 AM
This is now fascinating.

Also, somewhat unrelated, but I really hope if/when() something ever terrible happens to me, I really hope some random unforeseen prior events don't cause everyone to think that I actually caused it.

It'd really suck to watch my wife die and have everyone suspect I murdered her (eg Robert Blake) or get kidnapped and have everyone think I made it all up.
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11-27-2016 , 01:56 PM
anyone have the actual over/under of people just 'let go' by a Mexican drug cartel kidnapping ring? I'm guessing this never happens in real life.
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11-27-2016 , 02:19 PM
Here's some fuel for the speculation fire, some of super moms writings about her problems with latinos and Latinas lol. (Her maiden name is used) also the stories on there are almost certainly a complete fabrication
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11-27-2016 , 02:50 PM
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Here's some fuel for the speculation fire, some of super moms writings about her problems with latinos and Latinas lol. (Her maiden name is used) also the stories on there are almost certainly a complete fabrication
Yeah. She has had violent confrontations, real or imagined, on multiple occasions with latinos that she then wrote about in the context of how a female skinhead should act in those situations. Her credibility is more than suspect when a nearly unheard of situation happens to her with no seemingly logical explanation, vague details and perpetrators who happen to be her personal boogieman. Would be less surprised to find out she ran off to live out a skinhead fantasy with someone she met online than if it was a real abduction.

Kpowers;

As long as you have not written extensively about hating a particular minority on a white supremacist site then randomly get abducted, held for weeks and released by nondescript members of that minority group, I'll give you the benifit of the doubt.
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11-27-2016 , 03:06 PM
All,

One of the strangest pieces of info to me is the fact that the police who interviewed her have said it was not clear whether she knew the kidnappers. That makes no sense at all.
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11-27-2016 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by revots33
Most of the skepticism seems to come from the fact that it was 2 women who abducted her, that there was no ransom demand (that we know of), and she was suddenly released after 3 weeks. I don't find any of these things particularly hard to believe.
Really? Unless this woman was kidnapped and used for sexual slavery, I can't think of a reason why two woman would kidnap a random stranger, hold her for three weeks without making a ransom demand, and then release her.
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11-27-2016 , 03:40 PM
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Really? Unless this woman was kidnapped and used for sexual slavery, I can't think of a reason why two woman would kidnap a random stranger, hold her for three weeks without making a ransom demand, and then release her.
They were latinos. Ldo
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11-27-2016 , 03:44 PM
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All,

One of the strangest pieces of info to me is the fact that the police who interviewed her have said it was not clear whether she knew the kidnappers. That makes no sense at all.
Some of the articles seem to imply they haven't gotten much info from her, like from here:

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Speaking on “Good Morning America,” Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said detectives are hoping to get more information from Papini soon in an effort to find her kidnappers.

“Obviously she was emotional and quite upset, but elated to be freed, and so we were able to get some information from her,” he added. “Then, in the days following this, we will be following up with her.”
If they really believed that there were violent kidnappers roaming around wouldn't we have heard more by now? Or maybe a little more sense of urgency? There are some armed crazy female hispanic kidnappers on the loose, for God's sake!
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11-27-2016 , 04:02 PM
Lfs,

If they said they hadn't been able to interview her yet because she was so shaken, sure.

But they got two Hispanic women, armed, in a dark SUV. BUT NOT IF SHE KNOWS THEM OR NOT!?!?!!???!!!
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11-27-2016 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Lfs,

If they said they hadn't been able to interview her yet because she was so shaken, sure.

But they got two Hispanic women, armed, in a dark SUV. BUT NOT IF SHE KNOWS THEM OR NOT!?!?!!???!!!
Well it could mean that they don't know if the women have any connection to the victim (as in maybe she had a run-in with family members previously etc.)
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11-27-2016 , 04:11 PM
Rev,

That could make sense, thanks.
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11-27-2016 , 05:05 PM
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Some of the articles seem to imply they haven't gotten much info from her, like from [URL="http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-missing-mother-sherri-papini-battered-20161127-story.html"]here[/URL!
For someone violently beaten, she was released from the hospital awfully quickly.

So, all we have to go is two armed Hispanic females in an SUV. How about a least a make and color so the public can help? Like two people in their 30s driving a black Mercedes SUV carrying grenades.
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11-27-2016 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Lfs,

If they said they hadn't been able to interview her yet because she was so shaken, sure.

But they got two Hispanic women, armed, in a dark SUV. BUT NOT IF SHE KNOWS THEM OR NOT!?!?!!???!!!
I think law enforcement is prob as sceptical as the public is but has to be careful not to tip their suspicions, especially after the police in the bay area accused that couple of a hoax kidnapping that was actually real.
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11-27-2016 , 06:00 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20071030...03/060101.html

Did I not post this earlier? If it got deleted apologies for repost
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