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07-08-2021 , 11:39 AM
Maltese Falcon, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Sunset Boulevard

To Kill a Mockingbird came out in '62. The scale of Gone with the Wind is notable. No one's mentioned Citizen Kane either, I know it's mainly lauded for the innovative shots and the like but it holds up imo.

SB was maybe the most uniquely entertaining movie I've ever seen, had a certain je ne sais quoi. (All these things I've only seen once and most were two and a half decades ago.)
07-08-2021 , 11:44 AM
I really dig the sound of old movies.

Opening of NCFOM with the audio of him walking out in the desert and gravel is reminiscent.
07-08-2021 , 11:55 AM
Why are NCFOM and Kill Bill connected in my head?
07-08-2021 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Maltese Falcon, Treasure of Sierra Madre, Sunset Boulevard

To Kill a Mockingbird came out in '62. The scale of Gone with the Wind is notable. No one's mentioned Citizen Kane either, I know it's mainly lauded for the innovative shots and the like but it holds up imo.

SB was maybe the most uniquely entertaining movie I've ever seen, had a certain je ne sais quoi. (All these things I've only seen once and most were two and a half decades ago.)

Citizen Kane is fine, but I don’t feel like it holds up as a GOAT-level viewing experience today in the way that other classics do. Obviously it was hugely influential.

Treasure of Sierra Madre was very good. I wasn’t as big on Maltese Falcon and Sunset Boulevard as others are. As movies about the acting business go, I liked All About Eve a fair bit better than Sunset Boulevard.

I took two shots at Gone With the Wind and can’t get through it. Found it very boring.
07-08-2021 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Why are NCFOM and Kill Bill connected in my head?

The large number of murders? Otherwise I don’t know. Different directors, can’t think of any cast overlap, pretty different vibes apart from both movies being violent.
07-08-2021 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by REDeYeS00
i suggest giving Palahniuk's book of the same name a read if you are really interested in the clues. Palahniuk was my preferred airplane reading from somewhere in the late 90's to the early 00's. twisted, immersive, intelligent stuff.

Pahlaniuk is a sick **** but occasionally fun to read.
07-08-2021 , 12:08 PM
Brain fart I guess, I can't find anything online. That's annoying.
07-08-2021 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
Did this really happen? She was/is/always will be out of his league.
The rumor was that she wanted to get married. He decided that he didn't. So they went splitsville.
07-08-2021 , 05:26 PM
quite the run by Ed Norton at the end of the last century

1996
Primal Fear
Everyone Says I Love You
The People vs Larry Flint

1998
American History X
Rounders

1999
Fight Club
07-08-2021 , 05:41 PM
Anyone watch his most recent project, Motherless Brooklyn? I recall almost starting it one night, but then just passed out instead.
07-08-2021 , 06:16 PM
Take: Ryan Gosling is a better looking Ed Norton and drank his milkshake.
07-08-2021 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Anyone watch his most recent project, Motherless Brooklyn? I recall almost starting it one night, but then just passed out instead.

Ive been meaning to see that myself.
07-08-2021 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Why are NCFOM and Kill Bill connected in my head?
Both centered around assassins on the hunt.

But I would gamble that the main thing is the visual similarity and tone from these scenes/characters.





Coen broes and Tarantino being (the) preeminent filmmakers of this century would be the third point.
07-08-2021 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Take: Ryan Gosling is a better looking Ed Norton and drank his milkshake.
I mean sure he's better-looking, but I have no idea what connection you're drawing otherwise. They haven't pursued the same types of roles at all. And Gosling, while certainly good, is not the superior actor.
07-08-2021 , 06:23 PM
Coolest trivia bits for No Country are that Joel and Ethan personally edited it themselves using Final Cut Pro, and that the film has no musical score (just some random ambient music moments and the closing credits).
07-08-2021 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I mean sure he's better-looking, but I have no idea what connection you're drawing otherwise. They haven't pursued the same types of roles at all. And Gosling, while certainly good, is not the superior actor.

Pretty
Much
This.
07-08-2021 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LKJ
I mean sure he's better-looking, but I have no idea what connection you're drawing otherwise. They haven't pursued the same types of roles at all. And Gosling, while certainly good, is not the superior actor.
I think United States of Leland, The Believer, and Murder by Numbers are early Gosling roles you could have seen Norton in at the same age (and did play similar roles). Could see him in Half Nelson definitely.

I think they're actors w/ similar physiques and range. Gosling is more handsome so of course he's able to fetch larger, billboard roles too.

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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Coolest trivia bits for No Country are that Joel and Ethan personally edited it themselves using Final Cut Pro, and that the film has no musical score (just some random ambient music moments and the closing credits).
That's probably the reason I love it the most.
07-08-2021 , 06:36 PM
I would much rather have sex with Ryan Gosling.
07-08-2021 , 06:38 PM
Oh yeah, Fracture was basically Primal Fear redux if I remember right too.
07-08-2021 , 06:38 PM
The thing is that Norton, while certainly a good-looking enough guy, basically didn't play romantic leads at practically any point. He's got a romantic partner in Everyone Says I Love You, but that's an ensemble picture, and the relationship isn't central to the movie. His relationships in Primal Fear, American History X, and Fight Club only existed to show how ****ed up his characters were. In Rounders he's probably just patronizing hookers, but he doesn't have a love interest.

Honestly, it probably takes until Death to Smoochy for him to really have a love story at all, unless you want to count him pining after a woman while he's serving as a Catholic priest in Keeping the Faith.

In the meantime, that's been a pretty central focus for Gosling. Understandably so! But they're just very different careers.
07-08-2021 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Anyone watch his most recent project, Motherless Brooklyn? I recall almost starting it one night, but then just passed out instead.
Oh yeah! I particularly loved him in it.
07-08-2021 , 06:41 PM
Gosling was basically following his early footsteps in role choices (sans The Notebook).

He's just got more options at his disposal and was able to transition to a bigger star. Norton is the benefactor of same great scripts, more so than something innate about him.

I like both tho. From what I remember, The Score was good too.
07-08-2021 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Gosling was basically following his early footsteps in role choices (sans The Notebook).

He's just got more options at his disposal and was able to transition to a bigger star. Norton is the benefactor of same great scripts, more so than something innate about him.

I like both tho. From what I remember, The Score was good too.
I think it significantly undersells Norton's contributions to Primal Fear and American History X to frame it as though it was just great source material that would have been brought to life by [insert solid actor here]. That was some truly standout work.

Obviously Gosling is the bigger star and it's not overly difficult to see why, but I just think the comparison is quite odd.

The Score was fairly enjoyable, but I thought was below the standard of much of Norton's earlier stuff. I hoped for more out of a De Niro/Norton movie.
07-08-2021 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bighurt52235
Oh yeah! I particularly loved him in it.
I'm hoping you passed out early in viewing Primal Fear, because the alternative would be that you didn't like it?
07-08-2021 , 06:59 PM
*Jeff Garlin exclamation*: I didn't like it!

I didn't dislike it, but didn't really enjoy and wouldn't recommend to anyone. I kinda liked the final bit between Marty and Aaron/Roy, but the rest felt somewhere between predictable to eyeroll.

      
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