Unions regs you say...what is he a Plummer...ffs dids most of the work force is no one union now a days and employers have atwill. People can guess they will be fired no manager ever comes ans says " hey jimmy we interviewed this great help desk guy. You need to start looking "
I'm not sure where I've suggested that wouldn't be the case.
Please explain in what situation it would be proper and in the best interest of employee for him to tell his employer he's interviewing. I don't think you're being very clear.
Please explain in what situation it would be proper and in the best interest of employee for him to tell his employer he's interviewing. I don't think you're being very clear.
For some of you guys, it may be worth considering that not every type of institution has the same environment/conventions in this regard. If I was interviewing for a new position, I would not only tell my boss, and my boss's boss, but I would use them both as a reference.
Never tell the employer more than they need to know. Just tell them you've been on the toilet all night and you might have food poisoning. It gets you out of needing a doctor's note. You don't need a Dr's note unless you miss 2 days of work in most places.
If you phone in sick, you could also say you've got terrible diarrhea and have spent the last hour on the toilet. I guarantee there will not be ANY follow up questions the next day.
FYP.
People always seem to ask how your throat/chest is if you use the 'I've got a cold' line, plus colds tend to affect your speaking voice so it's harder to fake.
No one is going to be asking you questions about your stool consistency the next day.
Obviously not every boss is as perfect and wonderful as I am, and some will do stupid **** if they know you're interviewing, but some may just appreciate the honest and be understanding. Just make sure you've thought everything through.
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If you like where you work, have a reasonable manager, and who you work with, but have an opportunity to make more money- why not take the steps to try generate the best outcome possible for everybody.
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Again, it's obviously situational.
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All I'm saying is consider the situation and do the least dickish thing possible really.
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I'm obviously looking out for me first. Every situation is different, think about the one you're in, and if it makes sense, be nice. I don't think that's at all unreasonable.
Seriously guys- I think I've hammered that point home pretty hard.
Please explain in what situation it would be proper and in the best interest of employee for him to tell his employer he's interviewing. I don't think you're being very clear.
Yea you are basically telling them that this is just a job, not a career and that you don't see a future with the company.
Dids, you don't view two-four weeks notice as advanced notification for company planning? I know it's not ideal, but I've seen many cases where people told their bosses they were exploring other options, and it resulted in them not being as successful in their current organization, even in cases when the employee decided they ultimately wanted to stay.
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Reason: I grunched a little - not sure if completely covered
People apply looking for a job, and leave looking for a job. It stands to reason the company is always looking for new/better staff, so when anyone states it's time to leave, only a fool for an employer sits around to wait for the poor soul to get his new job. I wouldn't say a replacement is easy to get, but they are far from hard. No one is indispensable.
The first thing 100% of employers do when they learn an employee is looking for another gig is start looking for a replacement.
FYP
I guess maybe you're allowing for 0.1% of employers being ******ed or something?
It would be incredibly foolish to tell your employer that you are looking for/interviewing for another job. 100% of the time. It is not situational. Anyone suggesting otherwise is giving you terrible advice, and for your sake do not listen to them.
Giving Your Employer "Fair Warning" - this makes no sense if you're not positive you're leaving the company (ie, you're in the interview phase with other companies).
1) You're forcing your employer to start looking for/planning for your departure, when it might not even happen - complete waste of resources/time/mindshare.
2) You signal your dissatisfaction with your employer and compromise current/future success at the company if you end up not leaving.
It's lose-lose. There is absolutely no upside to anyone to alert your employer that you're interviewing.
I think what you guys are missing, and maybe I'm not explaining well is that there's a lot of realities about the statue/union system that
1- Allow for plenty of reasons for a person to want to look for other work without implying strong negatives about their current role. For instance- if anybody working for me wants more money- they'll eventually reach the top of their pay scale and there really isn't upward mobility in the organization. They have to leave, and I don't bare them any ill will for it.
2- I can't do anything but plan (and we're pretty much always planning for this anyway) until somebody actually hands me a letter of resignation.
It's the very rare circumstance where it's a good idea. But this nonsense about it being 100% bad is just wrong. Some of the adjectives that are being used to describe the suggestion to simply think about the situation and consider your options are so ****ing weird.
I am thinking about calling in saying I'll be late that day for personal reasons. If they ask what reason, I'm not sure what to say. I don't want to use a doctor's appt excuse because if I leave soon after the "Appt", they'll know I never went to the doctor's..lol
I have no issues with my current job, just want something more and more pay. I see no upside to telling my boss I am looking elsewhere since our relationship is quite good and this will certainly make things awkward.
The only job I've interviewed for without currently being employed was my first one. Even then I lied and said I was currently employed.
Hide your tie in your car, along with your jacket if that's not your normal work attire. Step out to run a quick errand, go to the Dr., etc. and go to your interview.
