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SMS Seeadler (Ger: sea eagle) was a three-master windjammer. She was one of the last fighting sailing ships to be used in war when she served as a merchant raider with Imperial Germany in World War I. Built as the US-flagged Pass of Balmaha, she was captured by the German submarine SM U-36, and in 1916 converted to a commerce raider. As Seeadler she had a successful raiding career, capturing and sinking 15 ships in 225 days until she was wrecked, in September 1917, in French Polynesia.

A naval war that featured battleships firing at each other from 9 miles away and unrestricted submarine warfare also had an armed sail ship.

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12-08-2018 , 11:50 PM

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Garick

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To be fair, she also had a 900hp diesel engine.

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12-08-2018 , 11:54 PM

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Garick

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In case it's not obvious that I'm just joshing, that is a super-cool story and was a good diversion from righting a paper on civil-military affairs. Thanks.

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12-09-2018 , 01:30 AM

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oops, forgot the link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Seeadler_(1888))

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By 1916 the Allies had blockaded German warships in the North Sea, and any commerce raiders that succeeded in breaking out lacked foreign or colonial bases for resupply of coal. This gave rise to the idea of equipping a sailing ship instead, since it would not require coaling.

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oops, forgot the link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_Seeadler_(1888)

Link is ****ty.

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12-09-2018 , 01:37 AM

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Indeed it was, tho it was not my fault. I guess if you have a link that ends in a ), you need to end it with a double )) because of the way 2p2 closes links or something. Should work now.

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12-09-2018 , 02:59 AM

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How does a submarine capture a ship? Just threaten to sink the ship if they dont comply?

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12-09-2018 , 03:59 AM

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That's what I would do.

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12-09-2018 , 04:08 AM

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I'm staying in the sub while others board the ship.

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12-09-2018 , 02:47 PM

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How does a submarine capture a ship? Just threaten to sink the ship if they dont comply?

yeah, that was standard. Originally they would surface and signal the ship to stop. Then a boarding party would go over and search the ship. If no war materiel was found they let the ship go on its way. If war materiel was found they loaded everyone into lifeboats and sunk the ship.

The British were losing a ton of ships this way so they decided to arm merchant ships, which would pretend to surrender but then fire on the sub during this search phase.

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12-09-2018 , 02:55 PM

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I know next to nothing about naval warfare, thanks a lot for the info. Super interesting to me.

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The Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum theft:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isab...ft?wprov=sfla1

Unsolved theft of a series of classical art works with loads of ties to the Boston underworld, but no conclusive evidence. Looks like at least one of the guards was dodgy, although:

Sick burn.

I like the Vermeer, also the Rembrandt, but a couple of the others I wouldn't have bothered with.

I was in college sleeping 50 yards away from the front door the night this happened.

Also, if you are ever in Boston this is a great spot to go to.

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12-09-2018 , 03:19 PM

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I was in college sleeping 50 yards away from the front door the night this happened.

Also, if you are ever in Boston this is a great spot to go to.

"sleeping".

*Adds another name to the list of suspects*

Yeah, I'd really like to see the Asian stuff there.

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12-09-2018 , 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

yeah, that was standard. Originally they would surface and signal the ship to stop. Then a boarding party would go over and search the ship. If no war materiel was found they let the ship go on its way. If war materiel was found they loaded everyone into lifeboats and sunk the ship.

The British were losing a ton of ships this way so they decided to arm merchant ships, which would pretend to surrender but then fire on the sub during this search phase.

I imagine that was the end of the practice of allowing passengers to live before sinking the ship.

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12-09-2018 , 10:56 PM

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Garick

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And thus the Lusitania.

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12-14-2018 , 09:42 AM

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never heard of this guy until yesterday

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_...York_criminal))

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Pre-internet and during that time it seemed like there was a serious racially charged incident of some sort coming out of New York every few months. None of the police died and he didn't die so it could easily slip through the cracks on national news.

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12-14-2018 , 06:52 PM

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Just want to give it up for my favorite "great man" of ancient history, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridates_VI_of_Pontus

His entire life, from birth to death, reads like heroic fantasy-- a true master of propaganda.

The Poison King: The Life and Legend of Mithradates, Rome's Deadliest Enemy by Adrienne Mayor is a fantastic read for anyone looking to learn more. I just finished it for the second time.

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12-15-2018 , 11:53 AM

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never heard of this guy until yesterday

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_...York_criminal))

Holy crap. Guy shot 6 cops, had two guns on him that ballistics matched to 5 murders, fingerprints that placed him at the scene of 4 of the murders and he WALKS on everything except some weapons charges!? If I'm ever in trouble I'm calling his lawyer.

Not that hard to believe his claim about corrupt cops trying to set him up but with that kind of physical evidence it is still surprising to see acquittals.

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12-15-2018 , 12:55 PM

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I like how the entire neighborhood basically hid him and he didn’t come out to surrender unless there was news media there to prevent him from getting blasted

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Roland the Farter (known in contemporary records as Roland le Fartere, Roulandus le Fartere or Roland le Petour) was a medieval flatulist who lived in twelfth-century England.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rola...er?wprov=sfla1

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12-23-2018 , 07:32 AM

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Superb find ABD

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12-24-2018 , 07:47 PM

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The rest of the world likes to call the US out for using imperial units. Today I learned that the US does not, in fact, use imperial units. We use United States customary units.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ustomary_units

There is even a comparison chart between the two measurements:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compar...rement_systems

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Speaking as the rest of the world, we are aware of this. Figuring out what the hell "a pint" is supposed to mean in any given context is a pain. Adelaide has compounded this problem by having our own unique and mysterious definition of a pint of beer (425mL; a 568mL British pint is called an "imperial pint").

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