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10-22-2018 , 11:50 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Ellwood

Japanese bombardment of California. The captain chose the location based on a prior experience when he fell into a patch of cactus.
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10-25-2018 , 07:18 PM
Not buying that pic. Gotta be computer enhanced
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10-26-2018 , 02:07 AM


This looks pretty straight.

LOL at some of these: https://www.google.com/search?q=fly+...k2uGvcZa-INrM:

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10-26-2018 , 08:57 AM
That place has got to be stonehenge for hippies
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10-26-2018 , 09:11 AM
Looks way taller than 5 feet in those pics. Without reading the article I would have guessed something way higher.
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10-26-2018 , 09:46 AM
The first pic yes. The first pic suzzer posts makes it look pretty small in relation to the bushes and stuff nearby.

I haven't clicked the link yet, but based on terrain and never hearing about it before, I am guessing Australia?

Wow, Nevada? WTF
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10-26-2018 , 09:54 AM
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That place has got to be stonehenge for hippies
Stonehenge is Stonehenge for hippies.
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10-26-2018 , 01:54 PM
Groom of the Stool

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The Groom of the Stool (formally styled: "Groom of the King's Close Stool") was the most intimate of an English monarch's courtiers, responsible for assisting the king in excretion and ablution.

The physical intimacy of the role naturally led to him becoming a man in whom much confidence was placed by his royal master and with whom many royal secrets were shared as a matter of course. This secret information—while it would never have been revealed, to the discredit of his honour—in turn led to him becoming feared and respected and therefore powerful within the royal court in his own right. The office developed gradually over decades and centuries into one of administration of the royal finances, and under Henry VII, the Groom of the Stool became a powerful official involved in setting national fiscal policy, under the "chamber system".[1][2]
Royalty is just insane.

The movie Apocalypto is actually really good imo at pointing out the ridiculousness of the costumes and manners of the royals and their idle courtiers. Then think about the manors in England and fake moles and all that craziness. Then watch the met gala or some modern fashion show. It's all just crazy **** that seems destined to collapse in on itself at some point - although that process can take centuries.
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10-26-2018 , 02:01 PM
And 90%+ of the grooms of the stool have a wikipedia entry while we never will
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10-30-2018 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
The movie Apocalypto is actually really good imo at pointing out the ridiculousness of the costumes and manners of the royals and their idle courtiers.
Wasn't Apocalypto like 99% about Mayans in Mexico, with one scene of Spaniards approaching the shore at the end?


Unrelated: did Interesting Things Explained Well dude give up on the podcast?
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10-30-2018 , 11:05 PM
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Fascinating, ive never heard of this before. Seems so grandscale that it is outrageous, but it looks like it was actually kind of being considered. I wonder what the world would look like today if this somehow happened.
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10-31-2018 , 12:17 AM
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Wasn't Apocalypto like 99% about Mayans in Mexico, with one scene of Spaniards approaching the shore at the end?
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Yeah at the end of the Mayan empire - when they had famine and disease but were sacrificing like crazy to keep the crowd happy.

Who knows how accurate it was - but it made a powerful image of pampered idle royalty and courtiers in ridiculous get-ups - lolling around just days before the collapse of their empire.*



Remind me of this:



*Or at least the collapse of that fiefdom. The Mayans held on until well into the Spanish in some areas like Northern Guatemala. But their empire was already in decline when the Spanish arrived.

Our guide at Chichen Itza told us the end of that complex was a peasant revolt. They don't teach a lot about peasant revolts in high school history. Hmmm...

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11-02-2018 , 04:15 AM
Sea Peoples
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The Sea Peoples are a purported seafaring confederation that attacked ancient Egypt and other regions of the East Mediterranean prior to and during the Late Bronze Age collapse (1200–900 BC).[1][2] Following the creation of the concept in the nineteenth century, it became one of the most famous chapters of Egyptian history, given its connection with, in the words of Wilhelm Max Müller: "the most important questions of ethnography and the primitive history of classic nations"
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11-02-2018 , 02:51 PM
Great book on the Sea Peoples for anyone interested, 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed. https://www.amazon.com/1177-B-C-Civi.../dp/0691168385
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11-03-2018 , 12:45 AM
There's also this on 1177 B.C.

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11-03-2018 , 01:11 AM
I almost bought that on audio book - because I have 1.5 hours of commuting every day. But wtf is this Amazon Audible crap? I want to buy a book, not a monthly subscription to something I have no idea if I'll actually use.
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11-03-2018 , 03:37 PM
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I almost bought that on audio book - because I have 1.5 hours of commuting every day. But wtf is this Amazon Audible crap? I want to buy a book, not a monthly subscription to something I have no idea if I'll actually use.


You know you can just cancel your membership, keep your books and reactivate at any time, right?
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11-03-2018 , 04:07 PM
Sounds complicated.
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11-03-2018 , 06:26 PM
Suzzer99 on reading, the gift of the breadth of human literature and knowledge across the ages, the sublime transcendence born of our eternal common humanity, the storehouse of mankind's greatest insights and accumulated wisdom, our fables, our myths, our poetry, our legend:
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Sounds complicated.
;-)
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11-03-2018 , 07:09 PM
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Wasn't Apocalypto like 99% about Mayans in Mexico, with one scene of Spaniards approaching the shore at the end?


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500 years after the Mayans were gone
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11-03-2018 , 11:18 PM
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500 years after the Mayans were gone
Contact period and Spanish conquest (1511–1697 AD)
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11-04-2018 , 12:49 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nojpet%C3%A9n

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The island that was the site of Nojpetén is now developed as the modern town of Flores
Nojpetén (also known as Tayasal) was the capital city of the Itza Maya kingdom of Petén Itzá, located on an island in Lake Petén Itzá in the modern department of Petén in northern Guatemala.[1] The island is now occupied by the modern town of Flores, the capital of the Petén department,[2] and has had uninterrupted occupation since pre-Columbian times.[3] Nojpetén had defensive walls built upon the low ground of the island; they may have been hastily constructed by the Itza at a time when they felt threatened either by the encroaching Spanish or by other Maya groups.[4]
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Nojpetén fell to a Spanish assault in 1697; it was the capital of the last Maya kingdom to fall to the conquerors.[16] Martín de Ursúa y Arismendi arrived at the western shore of Lake Petén Itzá in February 1697 with 235 Spanish soldiers and 120 native labourers.[17][18] He launched an all-out assault using a large oar-powered attack boat on 13 March; the Spanish bombardment of the island caused heavy loss of life among the Itza defenders, who were forced to abandon the city.[17]
Surprising/interesting observations to me about the Maya from traveling throughout Mexico and Central America:
  • In Mexico and Guatemala - the women still wear traditional dress - which varies from region to region but has a similar theme.
  • There are radio stations that broadcast in Mayan on the Yucatan peninsula.
  • Mayan Men don't wear anything traditional - and their primary job seems to be to drive their wives places.
  • In El Salvador the govt massacred a bunch of Maya in the 1930s. After that no one wears traditional clothes there and a lot of the culture was lost.
  • Similar stuff happened in Honduras.
  • All the big Mayan sites had some version of pyramids and a ball court - but much variations within that.
  • Guides seemed to differ on whether the captain of the winning or losing team was sacrificed.
  • The ball court at Chichen Itza had a couple hoops that were like 40 ft off the ground and angled sideways. The only way you could shoot was with your hips, head or feet. I can't imagine how anyone ever scored. Which might have made sense if they didn't want to get sacrificed.
  • The local guides at these places speak Mayan to each other.
  • Palenque was probably my favorite.
  • Tikal was the most impressive.
  • The pyramid at Chichen Itza was the most impressive/beautiful structure.
  • Supposedly the beach complex at Tulum was the first place Mayans saw Spanish ships, and the first time the West realized there was a civilization in the New World capable of building large structures. Can't imagine what was going through the minds of those two groups.


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11-04-2018 , 02:26 AM
Oumuamua

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ʻOumuamua (/oʊˌmuːəˈmuːə/ (About this sound listen)) is the first interstellar object detected passing through the Solar System. Formally designated 1I/2017 U1, it was discovered by Robert Weryk using the Pan-STARRS telescope at Haleakala Observatory, Hawaii, on 19 October 2017, 40 days after it passed its closest point to the Sun. When first seen, it was about 33,000,000 km (21,000,000 mi; 0.22 AU) from Earth (about 85 times as far away as the Moon), and already heading away from the Sun.
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On 27 June 2018, astronomers reported a non-gravitational acceleration to ʻOumuamua's trajectory, potentially consistent with a push from solar radiation pressure.[19][20][52] Initial speculation as to the cause of this acceleration pointed to comet off-gassing.[53] Whereby portions of the object are ejected as the sun heats the surface. However, multiple objections have been raised to this possibility. Researchers point out that no such tail of gasses was ever observed following the object. Additionally, the anomalous acceleration was not observed when 'Oumuamua was passing at its closest to the sun as would be expected. A follow up analysis of these claims identifies that, were 'Oumuamua a comet, the off-gassing should have caused such an increase in rotational torque as to tear the object apart.[7]
https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2018...nd-lightsails/

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Considering an artificial origin, one possibility is a lightsail floating in interstellar space as debris from an advanced technological equipment (Loeb 2018). Lightsails with similar dimensions have been designed and constructed by our own civilization, including the IKAROS project and the Starshot Initiative. The lightsail technology might be abundantly used for transportation of cargos between planets (Guillochon & Loeb 2015) or between stars (Lingam & Loeb 2017). In the former case, dynamical ejection from a planetary system could result in space debris of equipment that is not operational any more (Loeb 2018) and is floating at the characteristic speed of stars relative to each other in the Solar neighborhood.
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