No, all the news stations today have been using all kinds of terms to describe the kind of shock she was in etc. She 100% knew something bad was going on especially after hearing screaming and weird noise, etc.

I am getting tired of hearing it unless they provide real answers.

Like, what exactly did she do for 8 hours locked inside her room after being scared shitless by seeing this guy dressed in all black and face mask covering on? I don't blame her at all for being scared and in shock, but did she sit in a corner for 8 hours in shock? Did she sleep? Did she have a cell phone? What was different about hour 8 than hour 1, when after 8 hours she went out found the bodies and called police?

Guessing there might be a Charles Whitman type tumor involved

Again he would have been covered in blood. She definitely couldn’t have missed that. And there would have been blood all over the floor as well.

I found this YouTube video just now, showing alot of Bryan's posts in a Facebook group discussing the crime. His alias is Pappa Rodger and as someone pointed out in the group, the account was only 3 days old which raised suspicion that it was the murderer. The posts are really telling as well, in that they give off a curious vibe in that he wanted to know what people are thinking. Similar to how he created that survey to find out more about what criminals are thinking and feeling before/during/after crimes. I'm going through it right now, and it is really interesting. I also heard that this account as well as his Reddit account, InsideLooking, have no activity since the arrest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLJjUsXIMwU

It feels like engaging in all of this online chatter after the fact was a big part of the thrill for him. To experience committing this crime, and then relish in all of the discussion afterwards, and get all of the reactions. I remember reading that students would say he looked tired/exhausted after the murders. I can see how reading all of this content can get you very engaged and addicted; especially when you are directly involved, so I could see him being up well into the late night hours reading/posting and taking in new information about the crime.

I see online and in this thread, that the biggest question still out there is regarding the roommate DM not calling the police right away. From what I've seen in a few news stories and YouTube videos, it isn't completely abnormal for someone to completely freeze up and be in complete shock when faced with this traumatic type stress. I've heard of an instance where a female faced with an intruder walked towards that person and into a corner and just curled up. Everyone won't react the same. Not everyone is made to be a hero and take heroic actions in the moment. We just don't have enough information to judge her at this point, and it seems best to wait before passing judgement.

His neighbor said he never sleeps, because the neighbor would here noises coming from his apartment all hours.

His classmates said he was very outspoken in class on various topics that would come up, but when the Idaho murders came up, he was silent. Guess he just like to anonymously talk about it.

We will probably never know the exact details of the roommate that saw him, unless the trial is fully covered on CourtTV, which is likely but pretty much depends on the judge I think.

Yea, that video is crazy, that he would be asking all those questions in the group. I like his profile pic. lol

Came across this link that shows his Reddit posts under the InsideLooking account. They are similar to the Pappa Rodger FB ones. I did notice that on page 3 he lists X and M as the likely targets. I'm still reading through it, so I'll go through it a bit more.

https://www.docdroid.net/yKm7vMf/scr...-40-pdf#page=3

There is so much info out there, it is just a long dark rabbit hole. At the same time, I'm not sure there will be too much new information out there until the trial starts; but probably just more speculation. I also found the FB discussion group that Bryan/Pappa Rodger was originally in, but his Pappa Rodger ID has since been removed. I'm sure FBI/law enforcement is looking into those accounts along with what other evidence they find on his computers.

You can really get caught up in this stuff, and you just don't want to waste too much time or get too caught up in it. I heard a quote somewhere about this type of stuff, where someone said you can stare deep into the abyss (this crime, murder stuff) but that the abyss is also staring back at you. I can definitely say that I find these cases intriquing and mysterious. I can also say that learning about these crimes and these people can be quite sickening.

Someone posted in that FB group a comment, "have you heard of Richard Speck?". I had not, but I read about him out of curiousity. It was horrific what this sick f*cker did. I also read up today on what Elliott Rodgers did, since he was such a well known killer and well known hero in the incel community.

I first got interested in serial killers a few years back when Brendan Schaub mentioned watching the Mindhunter series on Netflix and talked about some of the killers. I then borrowed a book from the library about that series and read about some of the killers. Joseph McGowan and Edmund Kemper are two I remember. Then I remember learning a bit about what Ted Bundy did after a friend told me about seeing that Netflix documentary. I saw a few YouTube videos about other guys like the Green River Killer, Dahmer, Gacey and others. These sick evil MFs.

Man I wish that we could wipe out the genes that create people like that, but maybe it is just so deep seeded in human nature that these types will always be around. I hope that the knowledge/technology to detect and combat these crimes is so much improved now, that we can prevent Ted Bundy types from going on long undetected crime sprees. I feel like Kohberger was on his way to just getting started on his killings. I can only hope that law enforcement and society can learn more about preventing people from going down this route, or more clearly see the red flags and signs of danger.

I just don't think there is much the roommate would say in a trial other than, I saw a strange man walk by in a mask, it was late and I was not thinking clearly, didn't notice blood or anything, assumed it was just some weird friend of a roommate and went back to bed.

It is certainly odd but it's not fair to blame the roommate either. We don't know 100% that she knew or even suspected her roommates had been harmed in any way. And even if so she could have just been in shock or talked herself into thinking it was her imagination.

As for the killer, on the autism spectrum it sounds like. What is the relation between this and violence? Seems like it comes up pretty often (Newtown being a prime example but there are lots of others).

The roommate's description (when she finally got around to calling the police), was key in making the arrest, as they were looking for the white Hyundai's and having a description to go with it was key in narrowing it down.

The defense team is going to grill her in court for sure.

Absolutely they will. I would ask how can we trust your ID but you didn't notice the blood all over him. And btw she's not the one who made the call to 911. It was another friend who was called over to the house.

The only really new thing to break in the past few days is a video of someone who looks like Kohlberger at the vigil in December. If this was him they can find out pretty easily. Number one just see if he has a jacket like that. I'm sure other videos were taken with a better look.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/08/online...victims-vigil/

Ok, didn't realize that.

That is another thing, apparently somebody called a bunch of friends to come over after the bodies were found, Before calling the police.

So that is contaminated crime scene the defense can run with.

Even if it was him at the memorial, it doesn't really mean anything, he lived 8 miles away and was a college student. I am sure there were other college students there that didn't attend that college.

You never know with a jury, they better come up with a lot more slam dunk evidence. Nothing is for sure with a jury.

Of course it's nothing they could convict him over but they say this is something killers sometimes do. Going to the memorial, driving by the morning after the killings to see what's going on. Again nothing that can convict him but noteworthy.

Absolutely serial killer types go back to the scene when the public gathers, they get a high from it. Police and FBI are always on the lookout and watching people that come to these things.

That was a lot of people in that one, not very easy.

I think it's obvious she was just terrified of what she'd find and just holed herself up in her room and called others over later to go see what happened. I wonder if it's possible she could have save at least one of her roommates or Ethan's life if she had acted immediately,

That blue coat guy was not Kohberger, according to this Inside Edition video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKxfTfpvR2Q

Had she been one of the ones that had gone out that night?

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/u...-timeline.html

The reason I asked is only 2 things make sense why the phone call was delayed for so long (1) she was drunk and had passed out for close to 8 hours after the attacker had been seen and left or (2) she thought she was dreaming when she saw the attacker and thought it was some kind of nightmare and then went back asleep.

it was dark & he was wearing black clothing.

Seems hard to say she was in shock if she didnt see the victim, unless she did. Possibly just denial and/or terrible conflict resolution skills; she knew something bad probably happened and decided the best course of action was to pretend everything is fine and let someone else figure it out.

I think it's ridiculous to get into "why didn't she...". I have a vague memory of college girls, and have known more than my fair share of women, and I could easily see a few of them just freezing like deer in headlights. That isn't to say she isn't hiding something, but not being able to comprehend how she didn't call police is a clear indicator of just not getting how different people... are...different

She coulda froze when she saw him, and viewed the bodies after he left, leaving this girl in complete insta trauma and shock

I don't think Dylan or the other surviving roommate Bethany were ever mentioned going out that night. Not to say that they didn't but I don't ever remember it being brought up.

Could be coincidence as out-of-state plates puts a dollar-sign bullseye on you.

I'm guessing the guy is an intense driver. Well, was.

Just curious, but does anyone know how long it will take for any of the more directly incriminating evidence against him to come out? Things like evidence found from the car, his computer history, any stalking evidence etc. Is it possible all of that can come out early on so that he can be found guilty sooner than later if he is in fact the killer (which it absolutely seems that he is)? Or is there any reason that any smoking gun type evidence would come out later in the trial.