you people are waaay over estimating your strength. They arent coming at you 1 at a time in single file. This isnt a chick norris movie. Its going to be a swarm of them. Thats ALOT of weight, and you are incapable of defending your entire body against their biting. It wouldnt be too hard for 15 5 year olds to swarm you and bring you to the ground.

Its like watching the UFC, the karate guys never win, cuz its to easy to get inside someones reach and take them down. Sure you could fling 2 or 3, 5 year olds away, but you've got the combined weight of 10 more dragging you to the ground.

I think the most important variable in this situation is the type of training. If it's just individual hand to hand combat training, then the number would be relatively large, but if they are taught to attack cohesively as a unit, then I would say no more than 20.

I don't think that that is possible. No mattter how you motivate them, most of them will get scared.

This is crucial. If you go down with kids on top of you, you may be done for. But if there was no one on top, you may be able to get back up again if your quick. But 5-year olds are just about the weakest people on the planet next to babies, so you'd have to be really skinny and out of shape for there to be a chance that they take you down.

have you ever been kicked, punched, or bitten in the balls?

Did you miss the part about the cup?

Tell ya what, you set this up and I'll give you 5-1 on your magic number of 30. I'll even fly out to Wisconsin to watch.

yeah I did.....still they have teeth, and the jaw is the strongest muscle in the body

I guess you could, but I'd like to think the trainers would teach them how to take advantage of the natural weaknesses you expose when you are swinging the kid around.

I think the OP mentioned that they would be taught to attack cohesively as a unit, but still though, 1 day of training isn't gunna change a thing.

After I seeing the stipulation about the cup, I think 30-35 is more reasonable, but if they are acting cohesively, that would still be pretty tough. Probably a couple of them would work their way behind you and get on the ground and like 7 or 8 of them would bull-rush you from the front forcing you to trip. Once you're on the ground, 4 or 5 of them would be responsible for securing each arm and leg, and the remaining ones would just stomp on your head until you are unconscious.

Not often to i really laugh out loud reading OOT, but this did it.

rJ

Dude, you're short and easily reachable. Assuming they go all at once and not in the kung-fu movie style one at a time, your nutsack is toast before you take down 10.

I think the number is a lot less than people think, and definitely less than 30.

best oot question ever.

same here. thread of the year in my opinion. i actually called my wife over to read this.

I think a huge factor that many are not considering is stamina. It's hard work knocking out that many kids.

Agreed. I mean if they are just coming at you one at a time, I am thinking it is simply how many kicks to the face you can do before getting too tired.

But if they all come at you, and I mean really come after you, like a swarm of bees, then the number probably is closer to 30, maaaaaybe 40. They will be crowded around you too tight for you to get off any good kicks or punches, then it is just a matter of time before you lose enough blood from them biting you.

this is ridiculous. You have to be knocked unconscious. Not going to happen with a bunch o five year olds. Sure, they could probably pin you to the ground, and keep you there at a great expense to their numbers, but they probably still wouldnt knock you out. With that in mind, i say.....



All of them.


peace

john nickle

Damn NT, you are one sick mofo. I like your style. All I have to say is knees and elbos, knees and elbows. I would crack them skulls. Here is a pick of a 5 year old.




Now I ask Evan, do you really think it is in the single digits? That skull wouldn't stand a chance against a knee. They would go down like dominos. Knees and elbows, knees and elbows....

The biggest factor I think would be your stamina.

the answer to your question lies in the fact that this is also a picture of evan.....


peace

john nickle

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After I seeing the stipulation about the cup, I think 30-35 is more reasonable, but if they are acting cohesively, that would still be pretty tough. Probably a couple of them would work their way behind you and get on the ground and like 7 or 8 of them would bull-rush you from the front forcing you to trip. Once you're on the ground, 4 or 5 of them would be responsible for securing each arm and leg, and the remaining ones would just stomp on your head until you are unconscious.

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God, the visual of a 5 year old stomping someone's head just made my day.

I don't think enough people are taking into effect the fact that there is almost no way for a 5 year old to rach above the average person's waist. It's not like 5 year olds are the best leapers in the world. So this means that they're always going for the legs. If a bunch of kids are going for my legs, I think I can run through quite a few of them.

My friends and I were discussing something like this last night, and decided that if Barry Sanders was in the apartment and had from the back bedroom to the living room door (about 15 feet) of space to pick up speed, even if he was coming out of a doorway, there was no way the 8 of us there could expect to stop him from reaching the other side of the room even 15% of the time. I think my strength advantage over a 5 year old is huge in relation to Barry Sanders and me. Add this to the fact that I think I can take out 8-10 kids while they are trying to get into groups after being randomly dispersed across the gym, and I think 30 is a reasonable guess.

I don't know what 1 hour of training is going to do for you, if you've had no previous training. You can't learn fancy ass punches and kicks and be able to use them effectively in 1 hour. Most people don't even know how make a proper fist.

Exactly. People are seriously overestimating these 5 year olds. Unless they're some sort of ultra-smart 5 year olds that will actually learn from their training -- because most won't pick up much worth mentioning. I think the training actually gives YOU an edge. You'll learn more from it than the five year olds will.

Plus you'll have a strategic edge. They won't be able to think of strong group strategy, it'll just be chaotic pile-on. If you can plan an effective counter-strategy, you should have another solid edge.

Add in that I seriously wonder if five year olds could knock me unconscious without a foreign object? I say any 20-something guy in decent shape should be able to take at least 20. I think 30 is realistic based on the one time I met Gonores (speaking of, are those UW poker lunches still going on?). I think even 35 would be within reach. I think I could take 35.

Yes, but you would learn how to defend yourself against a semi-disciplined swarm (don't kick, don't walk backwards, etc.). I'd imagine such info would be critical.

Remember, these kids are slow, have bad stamina, and shitty grips. I'd run around for a while kicking the little bastards that got too close and making sure not to get swarmed. Then after they got wore out from chasing me I'd go in and kill them all, screw knocking them out. They'd be too tired to grab me and try to bring me down by that point.